Reaktor Player Question

I'm just getting into the world of Komplete. I don't own the whole bundle because I know it would overwhelm me and drive me nuts.
Anyway, there are a few things that I really would like to have, including Razor, Monark, and Scanner XT.
What are the limitations of using these devices within the free Reaktor player?
Thanks in advance for your help.

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you cannot open up the structure and edit these devices, which you can do with the full version. that also means you can't build your own synth using Reaktor.

also, you cannot save your edited sounds as 'Snapshots' and then re-save the 'Ensemble'. by that, i mean you could not create 5 new sounds in Monark and save them into Monark. you can only save one sound edit at a time and save that as a 'Preset'.

if you need more clarifications, please ask

sowari

 

Thanks! That's exactly what I wanted to know.
I own Max for Live and use it to play devices that other people make as I have zero interest in programming and building devices. I love synthesis and making patches though.
But w/ Reaktor Player I could use presets and even save presets (one at a time.) So in the case of Monark, I can actually use the oscillators and filters and envelopes to make my own sound, right?
Do you think it's worth buying a 99$ ensemble (Monark) to use as a regular synth w/ Reaktor player?

 

in the case of Monark you can only use it as a Synth, so yes you can save single patches of your sound edits.

Monark comes with some great patches and sounds wonderful - it is my favourite Moog emulation.

btw, i forgot say with the Player version you can only load 'Player' Ensembles. so you could not load any of the 3,500 User Library uploads - you need the full version of Reaktor to do that. Also there are loads of Reaktor 5 Library Ensembles you could not use.

sowari

 

Yes, the name "Reaktor Player" is a bit misleading - it should be "Reaktor play only NI commercial ensembles". Not a bad thing considering the price but it's not obvious.

 

AFAIK it will load User Library ensembles, but only in demo mode.

Still, at least you can try things out & see if the full version is worthwhile for you.

 

I know this thread is old, but hopping you guys might still be around to answer my questions.

My friend owns Reaktor, which I've been using to make some great sounds with Prism. I have a bundled Reaktor player and have bought Prism synth. Can I save the sounds I've made on my friends computer to use in the Reaktor player version I have.

I don't quite get the differences between snapshots and presets, but I think what I'm asking is can I save Prism presets from full version Reaktor to load into Reaktor player?

Thanks.

 

Yes, you can save the sounds you created as PRESETS in the file menu of Reaktor one at a time and load these in the file menu of Reaktor Player. But you can't load or save snapshots in the Player, because these are saved into the ensemble. This can only be done with the Reaktor Full Version.

 

Ok thanks, will try that. What's the main difference between snapshots and presets though?

 

Snapshots are saved together with the ensemble and appear in the snapshot list, presets don't, they vanish after closing and loading Reaktor again and need to be loaded again from the preset file.

 

Many are confused about Reaktor presets is something else than snapshots. It is two different things.

I break my rule to stay out af the forum one more time to do what i can to explain. So many are confused about this, so it's a good and fully legit question.

Main differences:

A snapshot is stored and saved inside the instrument and/ or ensemble and saved with those.
- And btw an ensemble can be one or more instruments. -

Snapshots are saved in a snapshot bank that is a collection of snapshots up to 128 snapshots.

Snapshot banks can - but don't have to - be saved as a file on your computer and then be loaded - that's actually imported - in the proper applikation any computer you move this bank to.

To keep snapshots in the instrument/ ensemble for good save the instrument/ ensemble too.
Remember if the ensemble is deleted, then the snapshots is deleted too. The snapshots is lost if you have'nt saved all the snapshot banks from the instrument/ ensemble individually to your computer, so you also have them outside your instrument/ ensemble.


A Reaktor preset is always only stored and saved outside the ensemble in a folder on your computer.

Presets is saved (and loaded) as a single sound. Not a full collection off sounds between 0 and 128 like snapshots.

Reaktor preset is not as a part of the ensemble. Therefor they are not deleted with an ensemble, and if a new version of an apllikation arrive, you don't have to load the sounds into the new applikation like you have to with snapshot banks, if you want them there.

So different kind of management, security and usability between snapshots and Reaktor presets. You can btw always convert both ways just by saving to the other format, if you wan't to.

One can say that a preset also is the same as a single ensemble snapshot. But a preset is a save of the current snapshot with the current edited or not edited settings..
EDIT: In that respekt it's like saving a new ensemble snapshot, but you can't name the snapshot, you name the preset file.

Both snapshots and Reaktor presets have it's own advantages.
But in a way they both in there own way are what you can call presets, patches or whatever sounds or sound settings is called in different gear. But they are different from eachother in Reaktor as described in this post.

If you have a full licensed Prism at home, then you can take Reaktor preset files directly to yourself from your friend and the other way around.
But i must say that i don't know how the reaktorplayer handle this.
Somehow maybe the snapshot feature could be working for free ensembles and for bought ensembles too in the Reaktor player. But it's also a security feature for NI and a sales factor perhaps.
You can try to save your snapshot bank at your friend and take them home and try that too. Otherwise use presets. That should work after what Ni write.

Hope this can help you.

BTW. Manuals can be downloaded from NI's website. Please read.

Info that someone may can use If you only have Micro Prism maybe this is a way to go to share sounds as presets only can be opened by
similar applkations:

At your friends licensed full Reaktor and Prism do this:

1. Save your snapshot bank from the full licensed Prism to the computer.
2. Load that bank into your friends free Micro Prism in his full licensed Reaktor.
3. Save the sounds from his Micro Prism as Reaktor presets on the computer and take a copy home and place them in the folder Aymara mention.
4. Use the Reaktor presets in your Micro prism.

If you create sounds on your Micro Prism at home and want to do something only the full Prism can do then you maybe can do this:

1. Save the sounds as Reaktor presets from your Micro Prism.
2. Take a copy to your friend and load them there in his Micro Prism and save them as snapshots in his Micro Prism.
3. Save the snapshot bank to the computer.
4. Load this bank into his full Prism and work more on them there.

Note that the sounds from a full Prism maybe is different in Micro Prism as the full Prism has more parameters.

Snapshot banks can freely be shared between between the full Prism an Micro Prism. Just keep in mind the full Prism has more parameters.
I have moved Micro Prisms presets to my full Prism this way.

Info - Some sounddesigners of commercial sounds for Reaktor synths deliver both snapshot files and Reaktor preset files. That's the way sounds are distributed. It's two formats. But they are both a way to store sounds.

 

@LBH Perfectly written post! Regarding "One can say that a preset also is the same as a single ensemble snapshot"

So as a eclectic music creator who is interested in gathering snapshots from many different players/ensembles, should I save these as presets in my user folder? (Given that I am not interested in building synth or banks with snapshots) Or will I loose some functionality in the long-run by not saving single ensemble snapshot"

Just want to be 100% sure that I am doing right from the get-go.

 

Thank's.

That's a matter of taste and how you work etc... It's up to you to decide what work for you.

Most peaople i think is using snapshots only.

I like to be safe. I save instruments snapshot's and ensemble snapshot's. I also save theese snapshot's banks to disk and create backups.

Sometimes i also use preset's.

Con's and pro's is explained in post #11.

All factory ensembles and the NI ensembles you can buy comes with snapshot's.

Maybe you wan't to save both presets and snapshot's.
Just be sure to save snapshot banks on your disk, and also create backup's of both snapshot banks and preset's.

What is 100% correct is up to you.
Sometimes there are bug's to consider as in photone as i sometime ago posted about. In that ensemble some parameters is only saved in a ensemble preset or in a ensemble snapshot if the parameter also is saved in a instrument snapshot. So check you stuff.

And yes save your snapshot's and or preset's in your user folder.
Save preset's in the Documents/ Native Instruments/ Reaktor/ Library/ Presets Folder.
Save snapshot's in the Documents/ Native Instruments/ Reaktor/ Library/ snapshot's folder.
Actually you can save both preset's and snapshot's in any folder you wan't.

 

My way of doing things always end up being the wrong way. But another approach that I forgot to mention is saving sounds* in Reaktor 5 as a logic patch. So far it is working great, but am I taking a big risk by relying on Logic to fetch the sound in Reaktor 5? I am just trying to create best workflow possible.

Perhaps I should store backups of the sounds in Reaktor 5 as well?

*presets, snapshot or ensemble.

 

Back up's is for me a must. Sometimes on more than 2 unit's.

I don't know anything about logic patch. I'm using Windows and don't have Logic. But for sure i would create pure reaktor snapshot's and presets.

Sometimes wrong ways leads to something new and good ,)
But in this case maybe it's better to be safe than sorry.
But again sometimes doing things all over brings something else useful.