ReaKtorVSTi mac..update?!???

Does anyone have a clue when o when, I will be able to run more than one instance of Reaktor3 on the Mac. It' s been 6 months now and still heard nothing, I' ve been using 2.3.3. when i want to run more than one ReaKtor (most of the time). Anyone any clues? i' m soooooooo fed up waiting.

 

You hit the nail on the head. I have asked this repeatedly of NI with no response. This is terrible.

 

I know the feeling! frustrating - but I just got used to bouncing down - save ens. and go back and re-load if changes are needed. Not ideal, but worth the hassel for the results!!!

Not really helpful post - but make the most of what is available. I would love multiple instances of Reactor right now, but get on with what you got - til they sort it out. I am greatful for whats on my plate now!

yours optimistically
pob

 

Don't worry, it hasn't stopped me. I've delved into Absynth a bit lately to make up for it. And I am impressed by the great interaction with the original programmer at Yahoo Groups. (Wish it was like that here for the other apps). Really the concern is, if they sell a product a certain way, and promise fixes but don't deliver, it is frustrating for their customers, not to mention deceptive. These things cause us to think twice before spending all our money on their upgrades.

 

Yes - I agree wholeheartedly!

I just get carried away with the inspiration oozing from Reactor when I use it...

But - as a customer in any other genre - I would take a car back to the dealer and bitch big time, if my car only turned left - 'we will send you a right turn update in 3 months from now' - if you get my drift!!

Lucky for NI I work/play in an industry that I love - and can put up with the quirks for so long - as NI have created some pretty special tools for thee and me! I don't mind so much - within reason!.

Yours
pob

 

Hello Nanosound,

we plan the "full" VST plug-in for Reaktor 3.3. Unfortunately it tooks longer than expected.

"I have asked this repeatedly of NI with no response."

Who did you ask or to what email address did you write? Actually this is not a secret and at least the support team should have answered you that the VST plug-in is still in work.

PS: There is no release date yet for Reaktor 3.3.

Best regards
Marius Wilhelmi (NI)

 

Thank you for replying Marius. I posted the same question on the older users email list (before this forum opened) a few times and no one there responded. I am not sure what I will be charged for the 3.0 > 3.3 upgrade, but I hope I don't have to pay for the VST fix.

 

Well, i guess thats good to have some news at last, but i really hope when they say that it will be released "second half of 2002"(as i see it says on NI's own website) that they mean June and not December. As when i bought ReaKtor 3 way back then, the additional booklet that came with version 3 for mac, if i remember correctly, said the full VST functionality, would come with an update which would be released during the last quarter of 2001. As for having to pay for it to work fully as a VST plug-in, this would be a severe kick in the bag. But hopefully this wont be the case. Fingers, toes, legs, etc firmly crossed.

 

If they make us 3.0 users pay, I will not stick around waiting for 4.0. Let's hope they do this fairly. And let's hope it works now!

 

Nice to see a commitment from Marius that full VST capability will be in 3.3 - on the other hand it was promised in third quarter of 2001 ..... and again in first quarter 2002 .... so who knows? The fact that NI are now quantifying their timescales in terms of half-years rather than quarters is an ominous sign, though.

I can think of two possible explanations for all this:

1. NI are working at full speed to include the VST capability but haven't managed to get it working yet. This is bad news. The 6 month slip to date means the Reaktor project is in big trouble, and 3.3 will be rushed out and so will probably be crawling with bugs when it does come.

2. NI think it would be nice, but its not a priority. This is even worse news. I don't care what other cool features the upgrade has - I'll trade them all for the ability to use Reaktor as a proper VST instrument. If NI think users have or should have other priorities, then they are just plain WRONG.

Marius - Would you care to comment?

Finally, I'm surprised by some of the more tolerant opinions expressed here. Reaktor is one of the more expensive VST instruments on the market, and it's sold flying the VST logo, yet the capability of performing as a proper VST plugin simply isn't there. I think we deserve, and should expect, better.

 

My guess is it's number two. Of all the many owners of this software, there are very few complaining of its failure to meet its feature set as marketed. So this really sends a message that it's not high priority for them.

I'm sure they realize they can capitalize on the Reaktor engine by creating specific VST instruments. It gives them higher visibility by spreading their wares a little more, and is good profit.

And I am not sure why something that was already in version 2x is so difficult to have in 3x? And will this be a problem in future versions too? IMHO, new versions of software should NOT be released with a feature set that's a step backwards. NI should take the time to get it right before doing so.

 

NI doesn't treat users well (esp Mac users)

I'm with you -- I have never had an email answered by NI except by the sales support people. I wrote and wrote about Spektral Delay's complete uselessness with my config over and over with no reply. I posted to the old board with no reply.

Now it is the same with Reaktor. 2.x was so unstable on the Mac until 2.3 (which was mostly stable) and now I'm still waiting for promised functionality to appear in 3.x. This is terrible. They stay away from the forums because of all the problems.

The PC users (the majority) have far fewer problems... where are the Mac bug fix releases? If they are not releasing mac only bugfixes (for, say, the problems with 2D tables) doesn't that imply that we will always have a buggier release?

I feel that NI ought to offer a refund program. I bought Reaktor understanding that it would work more than 2 years ago and I am still waiting. If I could have my $500 back I would buy Max/MSP.

 

sorry to sound so angry, but to tell you the truth I am! I am so excited about the potential of this product that I find it hard to work without it, but it is so full of problems that it is messing with my ability to make music. Sigh. In other news, Nord Modulars are $990 at Manny's Music in NYC.

 

On 13/03/02 20:26, "Dietrich Pank" <dietrich.pank@native-instruments.de> wrote:

If not everyone knows:
Yes, a 3.06 for mac is in beta test. Intention is finally the real stable working Reaktor3 for mac users.

 

Vaks:

Will Mac users always be a year behind the receiving line of future Reaktor software? And are there plans to release an OS X version? Any timeframe?

 

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That will be the day... Any news about a release date?

Cheers,

Z

 

Looks like there are some pretty pissed off Cubase/Reaktor users in the Cubase forums. Has Native Instruments lost its touch?

http://linux1723.dn.net/forum/Forum1/HTML/008617.html