Recommended laptops?

Can anyone recommend any laptops that actually work with Traktor FS2. I cannot find one!!!

Please reply to Rob@concept-data.com or reply to this

Cheers

 

Macs highly recomended because all of them were tested and the components still the same on all machines, it works very nice.

 

Rob what is your platform preference MAC or PC? If PC there are two threads discussing Laptop brands that have posted within the last 2 months. You do need to give us more to go on than works with FS2.

Phil

 

Sorry Phill,

Preferably PC, but i wouldnt rule out a Mac by any means. Just as long as i dont have to look around for PCMCIA cards with the correct chipset (which i have been doing for the last few months!!) I have read all the threads regarding the different chipsets but none of them seem to come to a conclusion!

i'll have a look for the 'laptop brands 'threads tonight. but if you can give me anymore info it would be most appreciated

Thanks again

 

Not sure what your budget is, but generally your best bet for a PC laptop would be Toshiba or Fujitsu, though I haven't heard many complaints about Sony Vaios re Traktor (I really like mine so far). I think a lot of people would agree it's a good idea to stay away from HP and Compaq.

 

hello i'm using Toshiba p-15 s479 from may 2005 with fs2...
It's working fine...
pict and sets at www.bali.co.yu

peace

 

I've swung both ways on the Mac/PC thing, but I think if you're willing to be open minded about things the Mac Powerbook route is by far easier and less trouble-prone. Especially if you're short on time and/or the interest in computer troubleshooting/tweaking.

Also worth noting: when you're in Traktor itself, the operating system becomes more or less invisible if you're in full-screen mode...so even if for some reason the Mac OS "bothers" you, you won't see it in Traktor. All you'll notice there is less hassle getting things running reliably.

For anyone who might miss their "Start" menu in Windows when using a Mac, there's an excellent $10 product called Fruitmenu, available at http://www.unsanity.com/news/ . I use that for easy access to all applications through the Apple menu, I like it a lot better than the Dock for that purpose.

 

I highly recommend a Powerbook.

I have a 17" PB with 2G RAM with TDJS/FS2 mode
and have been testing T2.X/T3.X for both PCs and
Macs for a while.

Traktor is pretty good on both PC and Mac from a
geek standpoint but I worry about the stabilty of the
Windows OS itself.
The problem is not the PC hardware..rather the software.
PC hardware is actually good.

Microsoft can learn a few things about bug fixes from
Apple.

The varying drivers coming from different PC vendors
is a big challenge and worrisome for non-techies.

OS X is better designed and more stable OS.

Audio/Midi support is very solid and simple in OS X --
plus Firewire support is standard. Adware and viruses
are well-controlled on Macs as the OS itself has more
advanced security tools.

Troubleshooting problems is simpler for Macs too --
For example, no messy Registry to deal with.

Plus the Mac has cooler look ...what I call the whip-lash
effect..;-)

Kris...

 

Mac vs Pc

so does everyone agree that an apple MAC will be the most reliable/stable and overall best operating system?
even though they are a little expensive!

 

Re: Mac vs Pc

No.

 

@ robdj007:

there is the unwritten law that when you're new to a forum, you should have a look around and find out, which of your questions have already answered.

especially your question has been asked a thousand times.

perform a search, you'll find so many different answers that you are after all as wise as before.

the answer is:
there is no perfect computer, regardles mac or pc.

 

No I sure don't agree! if you are basing your platform buying decision just on peoples say so you need to step back and look at what and why you are buying. certainly the factors pointed out play into your buying decision but they should NOT be sole deciders in determining what you get! Stear clear of subjective opinion in both camps. Opinion is fine. FACT is informed.

Consider carefully your cost range. Forget you know any prices at all! consider solely what you maximum is your willing to pay.

Maake a list of your desired capabilities and check both platofrms to see what is available in both MAC and PC.

Consider what you use computers for today. Stop and consider what you want a laptop computer to do for you today, tomorrow and next year. Think OUTSIDE the box.

Consider what you are used to using and whether you are truly happy using it. Whether you like or hate the windows or MAC UI's maybe a decider. If you like the vast array of window software tools and utils, then there is a choice point. Perhaps you expect that MAC is just overall more in tune with what you do there is another choice point.

Blind assertions that either platform are more solid or more reliable are invalid! Crappy choices in devices and software can and do burn users on both platforms. I know a guy in San Francisco who is a Mac Bigot but has a PC for Traktor and FS because he could not get a stable build to run on his G4 Laptop. He hates windows XP but his XP Laptop runs flawlessly, and he is OK with it. At the end of the day it does one thing and it does it well. He says the hours invested in try to make his MAC work with FS2 are hours wasted and won't try again. He has specific tools that miust be on his MAC and if FS2 won't run with that software installed he will load FS2 on a different system.

A friend in Portland has a Windows XP laptop system, she runs Music editing, Content creation, Flash and graphic applications on constantly and just hibernates it. It has NEVER been shutdown been or rebooted in over 3 months She takes it everywhere with her she also has a Mac Mini at home that often crashes when her laptop copies files from it, she hates it for a host of reasons. These are both counterexamples to blind choices.

Read online reviews of laptops from other USERS and consider whether their experiences are objective and important to you.

Make a list of features that are important, go find laptops that have the features you want try them out see which works best.

For my money I use PC's, I may have a mini very soon, I like MAC's but my platform choice is driven by the need to develop PC software which means X86. Your choice will come down to different decisions. Find out what is important to you and make an objective decision. This is a use case decision not a religious one which is what MAC vs PC advocacy almost always turns into. It simply does not make sense to me why.

There are several threads on the forums here recently discussing PC laptop options and objective reasons why some brands and models are better than othersm, I wrote the PC options and tried to be objective within the PC realm. Lets hear from the mac experts in the same vein explaining advantages and disadvantages of the various models and capabilities. It will certainly help guide your ultimate choice.

Does that explain my opposition?

Phil

 

Oh another Windows/Mac war..hahhaa.

The simple fact that nobody can escape is
this -- Unix is a better OS than Windows.

Just look at what the Military uses to go war..or
what is used by controllers to land aircraft, what
NOAH uses to track the weather ..etc...
and you will know....

Here in New York, it is very rare to see ANY
dj using a Windows machine in a major club..
be it Traktor or Serato.

Kris..

 

Unix Rulez, and ofcourse i can tell u a list of good djs, i mean well famous, all of them mac.... i didnt see anyone of them with a windows laptop. chris liebing, hawtin. aquaviva, collabs, Umek, and a lot of more. traktor or serato but always mac.

 

Based on what facts?

See I told ya... This discussion is not ABOUT WHAT is better. THAT POINT can come later in which case its then largely irelevant because facts of choice makes the decision not opinion about what you personally like or dislike in terms of operating system!

Here in New York, it is very rare to see ANY
dj using a Windows machine in a major club..
be it Traktor or Serato.
Kris..[/QUOTE]
And that tells you you personally What?

It tells me the DJ's concerned made their choice for MAC because it represented for them the best choice of system for what they do. Nothing more nothing less. Ask Chris or Francios or Sasha whether their choice was based on looking cool or getting a system that did what they wanted and in a way they wanted. You and I both know already what their answer is going to be.

Frankly I doubt any of them give a monkeys about unix lineage and it being better or worse. All they want is a usable system that works. For some that is MAC for others that is PC. Given that 86+% of laptop users on the planet choose PC's to be their weapon of choice, what does that say to you? That 86% of the planet got it wrong?

I come back to my original case. workout what you want to do, work out who has the hardware and software you need and what things are most important to you, then buy your laptop based on your answers. Platform promotion is irelevant to that argument in that decision making process.

Phil

 

I think u were more inteligent (joking)
how many pages and pages want about it, in google i think u can find about 2 million talking about why Tiger is the best OS of the world. And of course, why windows is the worst.

 

@Victor: For Sucks Fake , I don't care what platform you say is better and how many websites post *opinions* on what's better. What part of this do you not get?
Its simply not the right basis to make an *informed* decision!

In order for a user to properly determine which platform is best for their needs its necessary to actually understand their needs, yesterday, today, tomorrow, next year! Since there was no specific guidance provided by the original poster on what their additional needs and uses were, its reasonable to do two things:
1/ Provide non platform specific guidance on how to determine the best possible system for their needs.
2/ Provide counsel *not* to make platform specific decisions until such time as there is reason to do so. Make decisions based on facts and evidence not opinion and conjecture.

As I have said several times in this discussion ALREADY; MAC versus PC is a religious argument and should never be the first basis to decide what laptop to purchase. There will certainly be cases where the platform choice decision is made right out of the gate. There was no such guidance given in the original posting. In the interest of fairness, balance and doing the absolute right thing by the person making the original request, we should first arm him or her with the best information possible to assist in the arrival with the correct system for their needs. This discussion for me is totally divorced from platform preference.

Yes I am being an a-hole about this and yes upon reflection this does indeed appear to be a pointless exchange! Given that its now written it might as well be said...

Finally sir, if you feel compelled to obliquely insult someone on these forums, at least be creative! Nuff said.

I'm done, my point is made repeatedly. If anyone should wish to further gather information on laptop platform decision making please feel free to Email or PM me, rant mode is turned off so you can expect a much friendlier specific and more helpful response, should you need it.

 

maybe we have diferent opinions but probably because i only bight the mac to work, Reason and some programs and FS, nothing more, for that yes i can say it works better. And its true, if do you want windows, i respect it. But dont tell is the best for that kind of aplications.

 

It's seems like I have opened a big can of worms here so I’m going to give everyone some more info on what my problem is and how it occurred etc....

I am currently using an Advent 7074 with 3.2gigga hertz (or however you spell it) 512Mb, 60 GB notebook running windows XP. I have tried and tested many laptops (friends) with Traktor FS2 and none of them have worked properly. The problem that I get has been discussed probably as much as Mac vs. pc but I will clarify it again - the sound randomly drops out and the blue sign at the top goes red. A problem well covered in other threads and I do not really wish to start an additional one at the moment! .....moving on.....

The reason why I started this thread was initially due to the fact that I wanted to update/change my notebook for one that would work all the time, every time! As I am in the UK I have spoken to our support team and they recommended that I use a TI (Texas industries) chipset but over here it seems that they are RANDOMLY put into laptops/notebooks due the manufacturer wanting the 'cheapest parts’. Unfortunately, I neither have the patience or money to test several more different notebooks or PCMCIA cards that may or may not have the correct chipset!

Now the majority of threads of which people of posted suggest that a Mac is the one to go for because it was tried and tested when they first made the thing. That 'fact', if it is a fact would be enough on it's own to make me seriously consider getting one.
However, Phil TF counter argues most of these points (well I might add). I am no computer expert and am only a little more computer literate that the average person,


so I put it to you again by asking you guys/girls who obviously use Traktor FS2 what in their ‘opinion’ (sensitive word on this thread) would make the best notebook to upgrade/replace my existing one?

Let me know if you need more info (but remember I’m across the Atlantic to I might not be able to reply straight away. After all I am currently writing this at the crack of dawn)

Thanks again!
Rob

 

It sounds to me like your existing machine has more than enough grunt to run TDJS or FS (it has more horsepower than my current machine).

I had the same problem with PC cards but finally settled on this one;-

Adaptec 2-Port USB 2.0 and 2-Port FireWire Combo PCMCIA Notebook Card

Model: AUA-1422

I have had no problems at all with my system since buying this card.