recording a reaktor jam parameters?

Hi

Digging deeper and deeper in the Reaktor rabbit hole, I made some really nice sounds with Skrewell and would have loved to continue on it. However, the manipulations you do are never 100% the same when you try to replicate a sound. I was wondering if, like recording audio, would it be possible to record the parameter manipulations you do? You can control automations from your DAW host but I seem unable to automate the 8 band paraneters (osc freq, mod, amp, ...) but only the main 5 ones. Any idea how I can either automate those parameters, or record them when I improvise, either in standalone mode or in plugin mode?

 

Greg ask last year for a Skrewell Hack to exchange the mouse area with an X/Y builing block.
https://www.native-instruments.com/de/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/13373/
try it please if it answers your questions.

Here is the thread where Greg ask for help
https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/need-help-modifying-skrewell-if-possible.375465/

 

That does not seem to work. All the sliders as well as the lissajous control pad are moving automatically. In Ableton, I can only select DELAY to automate but that automation does nothing. When I open the reaktor window, I don't see the delay dial moving despite having drawn automation curves.

 

Alexander Potekhin aka LazYfISh build this instrument to let flow in random not for use with daw automatic mappings.

 

Thanks, o that was not what I was looking for. I really wanted to be able to replicate an improvisation but I just will have to accept that some things are a one-time only. It's something I struggle in general with having had a traditional composition training where you have to justify every sound. With Skrewell and similiar you can't, I can (and should) only appreciate the sound.

 

I prefer AmbieGarde (Ambience + Avantgarde) = sounds not music only + non traditional composition.
My builded monsters give out different but similar sounds each snapshot everytime, please don't use it.

I'm no control freak.

 

there a thing called the multiplexing toolkit, and one of its handier features is control multiplexing, so you can route all your controls from knobs into a core cell through a single connection. it does this by modulating the information at audio rate through time. if you were willing to read up a bit and spend some time building the core cell to route all controls through, you could very easily save that 'signal' onto an array and to then be able to play your performance back by switching out reading out that array for the input, just like in that movie 'total recall'

i think it may also be possible to get that audio signal outside reaktor and saved as a wav file, without the data signal being rendered unreadable in the rigmarole. any gain staging would not be your friend

 

I just checked the factory library and didn't find the multiplexing toolkit, where is it?

 

I think he means the 'partials framework', search for that.

Thinksamuel
Fwiw, I don't think you need partials framework in this case, but some code modification will definitely be required. Screwed was designed to be unpredictable and unrepeatable. You'll need to partially re-design it if you want to change one of its fundamental characteristics

 

Or the commercial 'PLEX' structure?

Colin, I like that way a much!

 

That's great for you Paule, but Thinksamuel would like some control over repeatability, and that's also a reasonable goal!
Do you have any suggestions to help him achieve that with Skrewell?

 

Thinksamuel, as I see it, there are two options here:

#1 rebuild some of Skrewell so that parameters can be recorded in a DAW.
#2 record the output of Skrewell as audio in the DAW

#1 will be possible with some work, maybe a lot of work - I don't know as I haven't looked in detail.
#2 will be immediately possible with no extra work.

To choose #1 there has to be a pretty good reason, so what is it? why not just record the audio?

 

That is the way I use always for my compositions and arrange them in an audio „daw“ with low midi params.

That version I hack for Greg is for his using with hardware not with any daw.