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Regarding Album Art

Discussion in 'TRAKTOR PRO / TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO' started by John Alexander, 28/10/08.

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  1. John Alexander

    John Alexander Forum Member

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    I have a pretty big collection of tunes, and I plan to purchase more tunes in the future. I assume that my new tunes probably won't have many problems with the album art, I wonder about old my older tunes.

    So three questions:

    Will TPro find the album art for all my old tunes?

    Whenever you buy a track @ Beatport, the tunes come with their catalog #, and I'm sure that would help the process, but what if I deleted that number?

    Is there a way to add your own symbol to the tune to replace the default album art?
     
  2. djquartz

    djquartz NI Product Owner

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    To sum up this question.

    Traktor Pro uses the cover art that is written in the ID3 tag. So if you added cover art with a tag editor you will be set.

    Traktor Pro also has an import feature built-in in so you can add art to tracks.

    The only thing I noticed is if you import within Pro, you cannot view the art in your tag editor.

    So it appears it uses special tag data to store the cover art.
     
  3. ekwipt

    ekwipt NI Product Owner

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    Can you use cover art for wav fies?
     
  4. Jard

    Jard Forum Member

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    pretty cool feature, not really that important to me tho
     
  5. djdivide

    djdivide NI Product Owner

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    You can add cover art to the ID3 tag in iTunes. You need to google how to do it (I've not got iTunes open in front of me at the mo and can't remember the path names) but it is pretty straight forward if a little time consuming.

    As good practice I always write the art to the ID3 tag and also I always convert the tag to the latest version (you can do this in iTunes too). Then, once I have analysed and gridded my tunes, I always get Traktor to write the tag, so that all the info is part of the track file it's self, without having to rely on either T3 or iTunes to recall part of the associated info.

    This should help when backing up the collection for the migration to TSP too.

    Cheers,

    DJD
     
  6. PhilL

    PhilL Moderator Moderator

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    You should also be aware of the fact that iTunes through their clever thoughtfulness do not store the itunes used cover art in the files themselves. Better yet Apple decided the JPG file format was simply not adequate and a new undocumented format would be more to their liking. So all that being the case you'll be happy to know that Traktor cannot read itoonzes coverart. There are a couple of tools that can extract the JPG from inside the media wrapper that apple puts around the Cover Art but nothing solidly reliable and I suspect developers will be wary in case Apple beats them with the DMCA Stick which I think is quite likely.
     
  7. Karlos Santos

    Karlos Santos Rocket Man

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    So whats the solution for all us iTunes monkeys . Would it be to use another program like Fix Tunes (as recomended by Quartz).
    It seems pretty pointless EVER using the Get Artwork function in iTunes if you can use a prog that will show the cover in iTunes and Traktor.

    Apple always seem to find a way of p*ssing on ya chips dont they.

    We do seem to be going round in circles with this Cover Art issue.
     
  8. John Alexander

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    From what I understood by Quartz, we can add whatever art we want.

    That might make things a whole lot more simple that having to rely on actual Album art...

    Me for instance, I color code my tunes based on my own nonsense system. This could really help my color coding scheme out...
     
  9. Shaggy

    Shaggy NI Product Owner

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    WAV files do not support embedded album art.
     
  10. ekwipt

    ekwipt NI Product Owner

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    But there is ways to support it through the software, such as having some sort of tagging into a separate file which could then point to a separate folder containing the album art.

    Serato Scratch does this with text based tags with WAVS, just wondering if NI can do it with album art... otherwise you'd be forced to use MP3s and who would want that.

    Can Traktor Scratch Pro support Album Art in WAV files? (mod or developers?)
     
  11. djquartz

    djquartz NI Product Owner

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    Actually Traktor Pro does support writing cover art into Wav files.
     
  12. ekwipt

    ekwipt NI Product Owner

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    cool thanks quartz
     
  13. djdivide

    djdivide NI Product Owner

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    Hang on PhiLL, this is a big deal.

    One of the only programs up until this point that bothers with cover art it iTunes, and for there to be a problem with the interaction between the two (not pointing fingers at either company) is kind of sad, what with iTunes being so well supported by NI as a collection management tool.

    I have been downloading my own cover art as a JPEG and embedding it in to the file tag through iTunes. With any luck this will work with TSP, but do you have a handle on whether iTunes does something crazy with the cover art whilst writing it to the tag? I bloody hope not, as the though of having two sets of cover art for each tune (one for my iTunes / iPhone, one for TSP) gives me the willies.

    Grrr.
     
  14. dbsoundz

    dbsoundz NI Product Owner

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    Hello djquartz,

    short question: what ID3v2 Tag editor are you using or what are the preffered editors of Traktor users especially for the album arts... How does it works? Is the editor connection to an online database for editing the files automatically?
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    :) found a thread covering this question:
    http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/showthread.php?t=72521&highlight=id3
     
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