Reset Pad sound WITHOUT resetting Channel Settings

Using both versions is not a solution at all as 1.8 cant work with newer expansions . You'd have a jumbled mess going back and forth

 

Just a bump out of frustration that this still doesn't work. If it weren't for the fact I hate the sound of the Live Packs and love NI's sound sets I would just buy a Push and ditch my Maschine. However, I am hoping this will be fixed. PLEASE!!!!

 

it should be fixed. no disagreement. however, it might never get fixed. i've gotten around the problem by using separate plugin instances; one for all the midi sequencing, which sends the midi to other vsti and maschine plugins, which have the kits and play the sounds. that way changing sounds doesn't affect the midi routing at all. so the issue for me is now pretty much moot.

i think part of the confusion with the new system is that batch midi doesn't allow you to define the root note anymore. you have to set that separately under group midi input. and the upcoming update seems to indicate they are trying to deal better with that confusion.

 

2.3.1 "bugfixes:"
"Group / sound routings no longer removed after loading a new group"

Seems that this was *partially* fixed in the last update (2.3.1). The Group in and out assignments persist through loading Kits, but individual Sound assignments do not. Sound routings persist through loading individual Sounds, but not loading Groups. Not sure why NI would wait years to fix this issue and then half-ass it...

I nearly always use Group MIDI Batch to MIDI Notes, but loaded kits still always default to 16 MIDI Channels. At least we don't have to worry about changing Root Note back to C3 all the time and such, but c'mon guys, time for a proper, complete fix!!!

We need full control over whether routings change when loading Sound/Groups. A simple check-box would do: "Keep routing assignments when loading Groups/Sounds." That's it! Implement it! Make people happy!

 

loading a new kits to a group resets the the sounds set up and turns midi thru back on under the sound input tab. This is the killer problem, if you forget this you get the feedback when working in a daw.

 

I just discovered this thread , so i'm bumping it into the consciousness of Native's engineers. This seriously deserves a fix.

In order to remain compatible with previous projects, the best solution would be a preference enabled option.
You could define the routing information for a special 'preference group',. and then enable
or disable this override as required.

This would then apply to all groups until disabled, at which point their saved settings would apply. Alternatively a switch to
enable the group override could be made accessible where we current make routing changes, for each group.

This simple fix would make Maschine so much more user friendly with other DAWS.

Can we get this done for v2.5 ?

 

Still needing this all the time.

 

I think this will never gonna happen...sadly. The Developers/Marketing does not have inprovements in mind. Just new features. It's heartbreaking, but after waiting 4+ years for some features that i've suggested (and many other users to) and not the blink of a reaction or even good will from NI, this is the only conclusion i can think of.

 

*Supposedly* they are now making an effort to listen. We'll see...

 

If NI wasn't in the business of selling High-end boxes, the Maschine software would already be better integrated into DAWs. But ever since Ableton came out with its own box, Maschine has repositioned them as rivals. This means Maschine will only go so far, to integrate with Abelton. This means users of the other no-box DAWs will also sufffer with this hinderance to their flow. And who needs that?

Until NI get its act together and accepts Maschine as a sound creation / content rich / sample manipulation unit which is free to work with DAWs better suited to recording and mastering, it will invite hackers and other third parties with their own work-arounds. Eventually that will mean, no role for the Maschine hardware. If NI doesn't set the direction, then others will set a direction which excludes them and their interests.

Personally i would sooner use Machine to create those sounds/ or groups of sounds, which i can sequence in Ableton. The Maschine hardware is still my prefered way to audition and arrange samples. Its just a shame i can't do this without splashing more cash on convoluted workarounds from 'audio modders' etc...

Analogy:
If i have my mics rigged to record an instrument, the same routing should work with any other instrument i want to record. This use of the current routing setup is fundamental to the workflow promised by Maschine in their original adverts. Back then, the key selling point was a hands-on hardware which by-passed the screen and the mouse, a controller which allowed quick access to sounds in similar categories. This is now a bitter irony given what we are required to do, in order not to loose routing for each and every new sound / group / kit auditioned whilst connected to a daw.

Disappointing...

 

Here's a thought,,

Imagine Ableton 10. with a feature which 'listens' and 'profiles' your sample collection, to automatically determines which catetgories those samples fall into. If you were too lazy to do this, or you were adding a large unsorted sample database, you could have the software to this for you. Its hardware could then be used in the same way the Maschine once promised, to seemlessly find the next similar sounding sample at the turn of a knob.

Or better yet imagine A.i applied to learn what samples you were likely to group with any other sound types, and then make those samples available at the turn of a knob. An idea for the next over hyped box? The next big thing to promise the mother of all solutions, and then fail us on the details?

 

Wow! Seems like they might've finally heard us on this...
New in Maschine 2.6.5:

• “+Routing” button added to Group Browser. When active, Audio and MIDI routings saved in the Group will be loaded with the Group. When deactivated, Audio and MIDI routings will not be loaded (thus preserving any existing Audio and MIDI routings set by the user).

If it works, that's my biggest obstacle with Maschine finally gone!! Makes my month, can't wait.

 

yes finally its here! routing settings are retained with +routing deactivated when loading a group.
Thank you NI!

 

But they didn't add it for duplicate.

 

Yes, because that wouldn't make any sense. If you want to duplicate a Kit and preserve the routing right-click it, save to your desktop (or anywhere easy to find), then right-click another group and open the Kit you saved. Presto!

 

Is there a way to do that for individual pads?

 

Also, I don't understand the argument that it "wouldn't make any sense" to give people more customization options and ways of using the tools.

 

@_jon
If duplicate doesn't duplicate then it isn't a duplicate. You have the options, just need to use the right ones for the job. You can do the same thing for pads, yes. Copy/pasting pads preserves the routing of the copy and overwrites the paste slot. If you wanna load a different sound on a pad without changing the routing, load it from the browser or do the save/open trick I showed you.

 

Cool, thanks for the info. I'll give that a whirl.

 

Suggestion added to the Top Requested Features sticky thread.