Retina support for Mac - when?

Has there been any official response from NI on a timeline for this? I'm an old Traktor DJ looking to get back into it just for my personal enjoyment. Have a late 2019 MacBook Pro 16" and installed a demo of Pro 3 to test to see if I should get a new S4 controller and it looks really terrible.

I'm debating buying back into the Traktor ecosystem, but this has given me pause.

 

Came here after getting a new MacBook to see why everything looked potato. Guess this is just another reason to look at the screen less, and the hardware more.

 

I guess I'm in something of a minority in this, but my 32" 4k BenQ professional screen makes my entire stack look great, and I'm not missing anything with existing scaled dpi in windows10.

I've worked with and supported Mac and windows developers for decades, and have been responsible for building the systems they run IDEs on, and I've seen plenty of retina displays. I don't feel like I'm handicapped with the dpi I get on my win10 platform at this point, and I'm perfectly happy with my NI UIs. I hear some poeple feel that this is basically a show stopper on MacOS, lol. Apologies for my flippant attitude. I can't relate.

 

Mac or Windows makes no difference, It just so happens that all Apple laptops are HiDPI since 2012 (or "retina" as they call it), while in the Windows world low res laptops are still being sold today, so the result is you get more people who own Mac's complaining, people say Retina but the real term is just HiDPI / PPI; the problem affects both OS's equally.

I wouldn't say it's a show stopper, but it's annoying when HiDPI has been available in consumer products for a decade.
People use different scaling amounts, sit at different distances from the display, and have different screens sizes with different PPI's... (note that the PPI on a 13" or 15" laptop is massively different from a 32" screen).
All those variables change everything in regards to how good things look. It might look decent for one person and terrible to another.

I have both Windows and Mac and everything looks like crap in both unless I use no scaling but then everything is tiny (which can work on 32" or bigger displays). Personally, I bought a 27" 4k instead of 32" exactly because it has a higher PPI thus is sharper.
- Windows seem to try to smooth things more, the result is blurry at 150% and horrendously pixilated at 200%.
- MacOS doesn't smooth as much so at 150% it's on the fuzzy side instead of blurry and at 200% it's the same as Windows.

150:


200:

The resolution difference next to the Shortcut Icons is pretty clear.
Not to mention that because the GUI was mostly built for 1080p Screens the fonts are really small even when scaled, this does not affect all products tho.

 

Still waiting on retina sizes after so many years. The instruments still sound great but man, some of these are rough to look at.

 

They beta tested it for some time but then killed the feature because it was eating too much CPU. Maybe if they make a version that's native for M1 Macs we'll finally get it.

 

That's up to poor programming or use of flaky rendering/resizing libraries. Other software vendors are able to support Retina just fine it seems. If i try to open NI GuitarRig full GUI my macbook air starts to take off....something fishy there... M1 won't solve bad programming i'm afraid.

 

How is it that Mac users every few years have major issues with their software, yet still think it's king for daw work? I get that mac's used to be quite famous in the creative cliques, but at some point , you can't blame every software company for the OS that keeps failing you!

 

The OS is failing because XYZ company uses an old framework for their GUI?? The hi-res issue affects both platforms...