ring modulators.. help needed

I've looked through the library, but I have yet to find a ring modulator effect.. anyone with extensive library knowledge (sowari?) -

who maybe able to set me straight?

I'm looking for something that will let me control the ring mod frequency via midi key scaling, a l'a alesis quadraverb or something similar.

otherwise, I'll have to strike out and create my own..

does any one have any pointers, or know of some good existing ens to use as a starting point?

help mucho appeciato

J_

p.s. I had no idea about the reaktor_automation manual. cheers dan, I shall investigate further!

 

isn't there a Ring-Mod amongst the 'audio modifiers' macro selection? maybe this could be used as a starting point for what you're after?

 

in the old days there were quite a few examples in the "Official Reaktor Library".

here is one of those that will let you use MIDI.

sowari

 

There's Harmoshift by James Clark, Tritium by Stephan V., MadPad by Martin Brinkmann, among others that incorporate ringmodulation, Ming Rodulator by Seth Freeman and Ring Modulation for anything you want to Ring Modulate v1.0 by Roy Gonzales. In the UL. Hth.

 

heres a quick and dirty ring-modulator - take your signal;, put it into a multiplyer (or, 2 for stereo). in the other input, place a sincewave (or another type if you are feeling crazy). done. ring-modulation is just bi-polar AM.

 

> ring-modulation is just bi-polar AM

you mean if rm went on the proper medication, it was be am?

 

exactly! although, most meds have side-effects, so it may end up normal AM, but with cronic diarhea (or any other number of possible side-effects, although only a small amount of the test group seemed to experience those symptoms).

i dont know if you european and other non-american readers live in such a prescription-obsessed society as we do here in the US, so that may not have made any sense (here, you see commercials every 5 seconds on TV or in magazines for new prescription drugs with side-effects worse than what is being treated many times).

 

I thought the whole idea of prescription drugs was that your doctor decides if you need them or not.
Sadly it does seem that we are drifting that way, but at the moment it just seem doctors are recieving "donations" from the pharmacutical (how do you spell that) companies to diagnose that we need their more expensive products.

I was trying to see if I could "medicate" RM into AM with diarhea, but it just lapsed back into something that sounded like RM.

 

Probably, the most minamalist Ring Modulator would be to connect the audio you want to modulate into the 'A' input of a sine oscillator (or other type of oscillator of you prefer). This way you could pump the audio into the oscillator section of an existing synth ensemble.

Of course using this method, or using the mutiplyer method, produces a very "perfect" ring mod with none of the overload characteristics of a real hardware ring mod.

 

yes, hammy, i agree. using the A input is more efficient probably since you are suing one less multiply (since the A input is the same thing as the wave having a constant amplitude of 1 with an internal multiplyer after it).

the computer music tutorial explains why analog ring modulators sound differant, it would be cool to try and emulate this in reaktor, although this type of thing (modelling anything from the real workd) is not my bag.