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Implemented scales and chords

Discussion in 'Feature Suggestions' started by dasoli, Apr 26, 2015.

  1. dasoli

    dasoli NI Product Owner

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    it is possible to insert the following scales and chords?
    some are already included. Me, missing only a few.;)
    scales
    .....name............................................................................structure................
    Ionic..(equivalent major)...........................................1......2...3....4....5....6....7
    Doric.........................................................................1.....2..b3....4....5....6..b7
    Phrygian...................................................................1...b2..b3....4....5..b6..b7
    Lydian.......................................................................1.....2....3..#4....5....6....7
    Mixolydian.................................................................1.....2....3....4....5....6..b7
    Aeolian..(Equivalent natural minor)...........................1.....2..b3....4....5..b6..b7
    Locrian......................................................................1...b2..b3....4..b5..b6..b7

    Harmonic Minor 1......................................................1.....2..b3....4....5...b6...7
    Harmonic minor 2..(2nd mode of harmonic minor).....1...b2..b3....4..b5.....6.b7
    Harmonic minor 3......................................................1......2....3....4..#5.....6...7
    Harmonic minor 4......................................................1......2..b3..#4....5.....6.b7
    Harmonic minor 5......................................................1....b2....3....4....5...b6.b7
    Harmonic minor 6......................................................1....#2....3..#4....5.....6...7
    Harmonic minor 7......................................................1....b2..b3....3..b5...#5...6

    Melodic Minor 1.........................................................1......2..b3....4....5.....6...7
    Melodic minor 2..(2nd mode of melodic minor)..........1....b2..b3....4....5.....6.b7
    Melodic minor 3.........................................................1......2....3..#4..#5.....6...7
    Melodic Minor 4.........................................................1......2....3..#4....5.....6.b7
    Melodic Minor 5.........................................................1......2....3....4....5...b6.b7
    Melodic minor 6.........................................................1......2..b3....4..b5...b6.b7
    Melodic Minor 7..(altered scale)................................1....b2..b3..b4..b5...b6.b7

    Enigmatic..................................................................1.....b2....3..#4..#5...#6..7
    Neapolitan.................................................................1.....b2..b3....4....5....6...7
    Neapolitan Minor........................................................1.....b2..b3....4....5..b6...7
    Hungarian..(Gypsy)....................................................1......2...b3..#4....5..b6.b7
    Hungarian Minor.........................................................1......2...b3..#4....5..b6...7
    Oriental......................................................................1....b2.....3....4...b5.b6.b7
    Persian.......................................................................1....b2.....3....4...b5.b6...7

    minor pentatonic..........................................................1...b3....4....5....7
    altered pentatonic scale...............................................1...#9....3..#5....7 (9=2+octave)
    pentatonic 7/9..............................................................1.....9....3....5....7
    sus 4 pentatonic...........................................................1.....9....4....5....7
    Indian pentatonic..........................................................1.....3....4....5....7
    7/#9 pentatonic scale...................................................1...#9....3....5....7
    m7b5 pentatonic...........................................................1...b3....4..b5....7
    Japanese pentatonic scale...........................................1...b9....4....5....7
    Minor Pentatonic 6........................................................1...b3....4....5....6
    Minor Pentatonic Major 7..............................................1...b3....4....5...maj.7

    Chords
    with, first and second inversion.
    (possibly as a substitute for the chord sets?)

    Triad: Major, minor, augmented, diminished, sus2, sus4.

    seventh sus4
    maj. seventh #5
    seventh #5
    maj. seventh
    seventh
    Sixth
    seventh b5
    Minor maj.seventh
    minor seventh
    minor sixth
    minor seventh b5
    diminished seventh
     
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  2. Markbenson116

    Markbenson116 New Member

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    This would be cool, I tend to like the minor scale set 7 and not much else, be good to have more choice here
     
  3. loachm

    loachm NI Product Owner

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    ... I'd like that, too, but I would like to have the option to create my own scales even more. And with such a function us users will have made these missing scales in no time. So, I'd rather have the developers spending some time on a feature that would make Maschine automatically create chord set suggestions on chords we're playing in some sort of detection mode for that...
     
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  4. crescendo59

    crescendo59 NI Product Owner

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    I would also like the ability to set the duration of the attack time for each note of a chord. As it is, all the notes are attacked at the same time and this is not realistic.
     
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  5. Finbyber

    Finbyber New Member

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    I would also like to create my own scales thank u
     
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  6. Markbenson116

    Markbenson116 New Member

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    It would be great to have new sets of chords for extended chords
    I like the last 2 sets of minor chord sets but more would be welcome
     
  7. loachm

    loachm NI Product Owner

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    @Markbenson116: I guess, a tool like this would be quite helpful for you. I haven't tested it, yet, and how it would work with Maschine (especially on a PC), but it looks really interesting and it seems to be able to do complex things...





    (btw - didn't we meet at KVR some years ago?)
     
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  8. Markbenson116

    Markbenson116 New Member

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    Thanks I have seen this but not spent enough time reading up on it cheers

    And yes we did meet on kvr a long time ago I have sent you a pm
     
  9. kolta

    kolta NI Product Owner

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    what we really need is the ability too create our own chord sets , to save it .
    i don't agree at all the limitation to a few chords set more . cause it is again the same limitation .
    let us free at least with the harmony !! no limitations please !!
     
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  10. Narasimha Deva

    Narasimha Deva New Member

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    Why are we missing basic modes like Dorian, Mixolydian, Phrygian, Lydian, etc? Also, Phrygian Dominant too. There are a bunch of utterly obscure, useless scales, but not these super important ones.
     
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  11. Narasimha Deva

    Narasimha Deva New Member

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    Please! At least the basic modes!? My God. So many people asking for such an easy fix.
     
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  12. mitekillem

    mitekillem New Member

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    I too would like these added. I'm having to rely upon 3rd party plugins which augment my Midi output for the keyboard, rather than being able to select it as a scale on the Maschine controller. It would add a lot more creatively.
     
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  13. D-One

    D-One Moderator Moderator

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    Added to top requested sticky thread.
     
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  14. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    It never ceases to blow my mind that the N.I.'s Ableton Live 9 templates have had vastly more integrated scale functions for Maschine as a controller in midi mode than the Maschine does in it's own hardware/software.

    I can really use more of the basic scales/modes (Dorian, Lydian, Phrygian, Mixolydian) with their root notes located at square 1. Also, definitely melodic minor and its accompanying modes.

    I can transpose from the "Major" and "Minor" scales, but this means that each of these essential modes starts at a different position, and this affects the usable range, while also being a lot to think about in live performance. Having these would be a game-changer for me, as my live performances rely on Maschine as a melody instrument as well as a rhythm instrument.

    Of course, if there were a way to enter user scales, that would be over the top awesome.
     
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  15. soulbrilliance

    soulbrilliance NI Product Owner

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    +1 Please! Also Melodic Minor. If it is at all possible, it would be wonderful to be able to write our own scales, but I'm not sure how feasible that is...
     
  16. D-One

    D-One Moderator Moderator

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    It's coming... hold your horses :D

     
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  17. D-One

    D-One Moderator Moderator

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  18. dasoli

    dasoli NI Product Owner

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    Thanks for the note D-One.
    It took only three years!
    that's probably fast in this universe.:D;)
    Greetings from Germany
     
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  19. D-One

    D-One Moderator Moderator

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    Thread started on Apr 26, 2015 :eek: