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Solved Scarbee Rickenbacker Bass Slide in Pro Tools 12 Midi

Discussion in 'KONTAKT' started by Feikamoh, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. Jayce8

    Jayce8 New Member

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    Hello,
    I have an issue.If i start to play from the beginning of the previous note of the slide that's work.If i begin to play my song before the slide's part,i heard the two notes together.
    My Cc64 seems to be correct isn't it ?

    Thank you
     
  2. Jayce8

    Jayce8 New Member

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    Anyone here ?
     
  3. Denis Rionnet

    Denis Rionnet New Member

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    I'm not 100% sure how key switches are supposed to work. The way I understand it, I just need to have (e.g.) the E0 note played on the bass track (just as any standard bass note) to activate the "Use E String" mode, and this mode remains active as long as the E0 not is not released, is that correct?
    It doesn't seem to work for me. It's obvious that the issue is linked to the first note not being played on the same string as the second one. Sometimes, I'm editing the first note, manually moving it from a lower position, and it stays on the same string. And then I play the section, the slide works. But then if I play it again, it doesn't work any longer: the first note is again played on another string (until I manually move the note again manually from a lower position).
    So I'm a bit confused as to how I might get slides working every time.
     
  4. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    No, you neede to hold that E0 note in order for all the actually played notes to be constrained to the E string. IIRC this is explained in the manual.
     
  5. Denis Rionnet

    Denis Rionnet New Member

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    OK, that's the way I had understood it actually (from the manual).
    Is that what it should look like? (white note: start of slide; green note just below: end of slide; green note at the bottom: E0)
    It doesn't work for me: the first note is not constrained to the E string (except when I've just moved it from a lower position).
    I have the notes overlapping, I have the pedal. I have tried various velocity settings for the second note.

    scarbee-rickenbacker-slides.png
     
  6. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    I guess for starters we need to make sure that the octave designations are the same. Kontakt expects C3 to be the middle C (MIDI note 60). Which host is that? If it's a good one, it will have an option to change the middle C designation somewhere :)
     
  7. Denis Rionnet

    Denis Rionnet New Member

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    Good point. This is tricky. I wasn't aware this might be the case.
    The host is Cakewalk by Bandlab. I don't know if it's "a good one", but I like it anyway. :)
    The Cakewalk doc reads:
    "Base Octave for Pitches. There is no industry standard for numbering octaves. By default, Cakewalk calls MIDI note 0 (the lowest possible note) C0. The Yamaha FB-01, for example, shows MIDI note 0 as C-2 (C negative 2). To match Cakewalk to that standard, set Base Octave to –2."
    So I'll try to find the related setting and let you know how it goes. Thanks!
     
  8. Denis Rionnet

    Denis Rionnet New Member

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    So I found the Base Octave setting indeed. It doesn't seem to affect the key switch.
    Nevertheless... if I move the key switch manually from E0 to E2, then I finally get my bass slide :thumbsup:
    (The strange thing is, when I set the Base Octave to 2, the initial E0 is displayed as E2, but still doesn't work as expected.)
    Anyway, I have a solution now. Thanks, because I wouldn't have found it by myself.
     
  9. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    You need to set it to -2, not 2.
     
  10. Denis Rionnet

    Denis Rionnet New Member

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    I had tried both, actually. Neither works.
    This Base Octave option looks more like a mere display setting: it doesn't affect the actual pitch of notes, but just the names.
    When I set the Base Octave to "-2", the key switch still works at E2, and not E0.
    Had it worked differently, I assume that I would have to transpose all the project's midi tracks to make it sound like before...? Which was not the case.
     
  11. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    It IS a display setting. The thing is if you leave it at 0, in piano roll you will see C3, and if you create a note there for C3 Kontakt will see that as C1, not C3!