scenes duplicate (incl pattern duplicate)

I can remember, once I used a possibility of maschine to duplicate a scene, and at the same time duplicate all patterns in it.

Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore.
Is it still there?

 

Yes, press scene, then hit the duplicate button (it will be half lit) and you'll see the option +pat on the left screen, enable that and now when you duplicate your scenes it will create new patterns with it.

 

that's it

tnx

 

no problem bro

 

I seem to be fighting a lost cause... can please someone help me out? I want to duplicate a scene with creating new patterns using the hardware controller (Maschine Studio). The manual and the instruction above tell me to press "scene", then hit the "duplicate" button and to activate the option "+pat" shown on the left screen. My problem is that here is now "+pat"-option shown on the left screen as mentioned but the "link"-option of which I don't know what it does. I don't know if I've been fiddling around too much with Maschine or what else could cause this problem. A solution to this would be highly appreciated!

 

They recently changed this Scene duplicate behaviour around and, in my opinion, made some improvements while also making some things more difficult.

• +PAT for Scenes is no longer available from the controller (it has been demoted to preferences, despite there being ample space in Scene duplicate mode).
• Unique is a new feature that makes a Scene "unique" and in some circumstances results in the same as +PAT, but not always and is therefore not a direct replacement.
• Link is kind of the opposite and makes links the Scenes in that adding/removing Patterns in one of the linked Scenes will also add/remove it in all the other Scenes linked with that one. (Perhaps not explained very well there, check the manual and give it a try to see for yourself.)

I strongly oppose the demotion of +PAT, especially because there was ample space, but mostly because some users will have used it and be used to using it from the hardware, which is no longer (easily/quickly) possible. I also strongly feel that the unique/link+PAT options could have been consolidated in the Scene duplicate mode (for Mk1/Mk2, unique on Studio could be in both Scene and Scene duplicate modes) for consistency and easy of use, instead of being spread around the software.

 

As it is now, you can set scenes and patterns in preferences as the default which is the same as +pat. With this set to default, you can then toggle between scenes and patterns and link from the hardware. If you duplicated a scene with link on and want to make the linked scene independent, use the Unique button.

 

Is this the dumbest thing Native Instruments has done or removing the double click loop(which they brought back)?

I don't know why they keep doing this. It's really annoying. I was used to that and it worked perfectly.There is absolutely no reason for it not to be there anymore.

The unique link thing is confusing and annoying I don't get it and i don't want to get it. What's with the unnecessary changes? Every time I open maschine and try to have fun I bump into one of these changes that really annoys me.

 

Ridiculous and infuriating, isn't it?

 

Yes, it is.I hope they fix these things. Maschine has so much potential but I'm sort of giving up. I'm just gonna go back to doing most of the creative stuff on Logic and only use Maschine as a plug in. There are a lot of other limitations too, like you can't send clock to one external device and not send it to the other one that's plugged in. Ableton is sorta limited too. It does that perfectly fine but then you can't bounce in place.

I'd like to change things up and switch to a DAW or software that has more fun midi routing for a while but there are always so many limitations so I always go back to Logic.

 

i have little hope. I tried kicking up a bit of a fuss at the time this setting was demoted from hardware control to preferences, but it didn't seem like anyone was interested. Just like so many other relatively minor workflow enhancements/fixes.

 

I don't understand. If you are confused by a feature and don't get it, would that not disqualify you from being able to determine if it is an unnecessary change? I find both unique and linked scenes to be useful improvements.

 

I don't get why it would move to the preferences menu. If you want to feature it there why would you remove it from the duplicate section of the controller. There is obviously enough space there. Same thing with the double click loop, totally unnecessary. I do actually believe that I got that back in Maschine after it mysteriously disappeared in 2.4 update. I kept telling them on their Facebook page until they fixed it. After they removed the double click I stopped using maschine for almost a year and then when I started again after they brought back the double click i realized that between now and then they removed the duplicate pattern on the controller too.