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Selling Kontakt - I give up

Discussion in 'KONTAKT' started by favedave1, Mar 28, 2003.

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  1. favedave1

    favedave1 New Member

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    I'm selling my brand new Kontakt. Anyone want to buy it? Email me at favedave@pacbell.net . I'm in Los Angeles.

    Apparently some people are using this program with success. Not I.

    It's got the ugliest interface I believe I have ever see. White lettering on a black background?!? I guess the designers were all stoned. Do Germans get stoned? I dunno.

    Anyway, I hate this program. It can't read gigasampler instrumetns and it won't stream from disc despite the update.

    The piano sample has unplayable velocity which cannot be changed.

    So I give up.

    How did this win awards? Oh, who cares. I have no patience for poorly programmed p.o.s. like this, but if you do - email me and I'll sell it to you.

    Have fun.

    -Dave
     
  2. tamper

    tamper New Member

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    HA HA

    loser.
     
  3. drumyon

    drumyon Forum Member

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    pfff... Cry 2 tears in a bucket.. chuck it...

    You sound more like a whiner looking for someone to toss them a bone and fluff their already overbloated ego rather than a frustrated professional or semi-professional who has strenuously attempted to make Kontakt fit into their way of everyday work...

    Considering that there are lots of professional (or even non-professional) people using Kontakt in their everyday (or maybe every other day) lives (composition, production, jingles, special effects, foley, etc etc...) and it seems to be fitting the bill for them even with the problems. So where in that mix does this put you?

    Realize that these tools are just that TOOLS. They arent going to make you rich or famous simply because you mustered up the 3 or 4 hundred bucks and bought it. You want to sell it, Fine, sell it. But dont come on here and whine about how you been done wrong, and embark on a fishing trip for some sympathy and/or and shot for your ego. It's just lame...

    Im guessing, that you wont have trouble finding someone to buy Kontakt from you, but what then?? You gonna go out and buy Halion, stare at it for 2 or 3 weeks and then conclude at the end of that time, because you dont have a Hit Song, that Halion ALSO sucks, and post something like this on the Steinberg VSTi forum? Ill let you in on a little something beforehand that you can bet they wont be very sympathetic to your cause either...

    Best of Luck,
    Cheers!
     
  4. spielor

    spielor New Member

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    haha

    kontakt is the best sampler around . 80% in my tracks are done with it . you really should try to get warm with it . you won´t regret it .
     
  5. dorism

    dorism NI Product Owner

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    I have had problems with Kontakt and the application has its fair share of bugs... but... its still a great application with tremendous potential. I think the user interface is intuitive and much easier to use than anything else. NI just need to spend a bit more time tuning it and resolving known problems. Once they do this it will be hard to beat. I think NI are trying hard to deliver and they will get there. I'm going to stick with Kontakt, because I'm confident NI will deliver. Good luck with whatever other application you go for.
     
  6. Southsonic

    Southsonic New Member

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    First Try and then Cry !!!!!
    Kontakt is Superb but YOU don't understand it ????
    Ever worked with a Sampler ? It's dead easy and otherwise use the Manual....
     
  7. dix

    dix Forum Member

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    I have to agree with whiner:favedave that the interface is very difficult to read. It looks real cool but not at all legible. It'd be nice if the modules had different shadings for instance. It's hard to tell at a glance where one starts and the next begins.
     
  8. Hakan

    Hakan New Member

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    ..and I must agree with dix. I love Kontakt for its depth. But it is, compared to other hard and softs, quite difficult to work with.

    Samples mapping and such handling is probably fine. But when it comes to modulations, the overviews are soon lost. There are to much modules on the screen, layed out in a no logical flow manner. NI calls it "semi modular"(or similar) I think the way Oberheim, Waldorf, E-mu and others have done forever is the real modular synth concept in a simple text matrix and a format like;

    Slot1 Source Destination Amount+/-
    Slot2 Source Destination Amount+/-
    Slot3 ...

    This simply tells one what's going on in a structured way.


    Now, it's simple to even modulate slots like;

    lfo1 --> pitch Amount 0
    lfo2 --> cutoff Amount 0
    modwh -> slot1Amount Amount 7
    modwh -> slot2Amount Amount 12


    I'm sometimes using 20 slots in a E-mu sampler. Doing this in Kontakt is nothing but a scrolling session, trying to figure out what's doing what.

    Well, I guess, a bit late to change now. But I wish NI or someone else comes up with some sort of mod matrix side app that can be used in place of..

    Hakan
     
  9. Perry Parkas

    Perry Parkas NI Product Owner

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    Brilliant saleswork!
    People who really want to sell their stuff wouldn't diss it in this manner. I seriously doubt either your judgement or your intentions with this post.
     
  10. Spirit

    Spirit Forum Member

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    I don't think that's true. I'm selling my copy and am not concerned about talking about its failures. This is both an ethical thing to do and also there are many people who still believe Kontakt is a great program, so it doesn't matter too much what the minority of people who are selling say.
     
  11. Perry Parkas

    Perry Parkas NI Product Owner

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    Presenting your negative _subjective_ feelings about the program would not be rational if you were trying to sell your program. When you say how "ugly" the interface is and so on, that's wxcactly what you do.
     
  12. NukleoN

    NukleoN Forum Member

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    Hmmm...

    Yeah whether the guy likes Kontakt or not, it's clear that people coming to the board are probably interested in Kontakt. No skin off my nose if someone else is tired of dealing with it. As for me, Kontakt cannot read my AKAI CD's (it's not my CD-ROM drive), so I went and bought CD Extract and made do with that...though I'd really like to see AKAI support soon.

    Otherwise, I love the Kontakt interface..easiest sampler I ever used. Actually, I sold my Akai Z8 because of Kontakt. :)

    Dan
     
  13. jko

    jko NI Product Owner

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    I'm selling a copy of the superb Kompakt Sampler. This is an excellent piece of software and it is absolutely bugfree. It is also - as well as other NI Products - very well adapted to Apple Computers, with even higher performance as windows versions. It has full Audio Units support and you know that NI will do everything to make it even better running on your mac. Development for the macintosh platform has very high priority for NI. Very good is the frequent updates, in case of bugs there will be updates very, very soon. (But bugs hardly ever occur).
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    Something like that? You are the marketing pros!!!
     
  14. Perry Parkas

    Perry Parkas NI Product Owner

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    You really should understand that that's not what I meant. For starters, you shouldn't lie, off course. You shouldn't denie the bugs either, but making a huge number of it isn't nececcary to be honest either. The real icing of the cake was your b*tching on subjective matters, like the LOOKS of Kontakt. That's like advertising your shirt for sale with: "Butt ugly shirt, but I know there are some real losers out there who like such ugly colours, so I thought you might like to buy it (and by the way, it's yellow)."
     
  15. analoguejunkie

    analoguejunkie Forum Member

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    the bad thing is how small the library explorer elements are - I get eye ache every time ;-) but I think reaktor got better - the first versions were unusable - did read my old giga files wrongly - this works now - but it consumes still much more cpu power than my old gigastudio 1.5 - this one could run 160 voices at 10% cpu usage - try this with kontakt! but nevertheless I can't go without kontakt in sequencer work
     
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