Shure M44g's

I switched to Shure M44G's from Stanton carts a couple of months back and despite only moderate usage, I noticed one of the stylus was bent after experiencing calibration issues.

I currently have the carts mounted flush to the back of my 1200's headshell. The stylus is bent towards the outside of the timecode, indicating that maybe I should mount the cart at 23degrees? Does anyone else do this to combat this specific issue?

Cheers

 

I used to mount my 447's at 23 degrees but that was for skip resistance on my old Technics. Now that I use a straight arm I mount it flush.

Never had any problem with a bent stylus though, regardless.

 

Maybe I gave it a bump without noticing. It's just the way it's bent to the outside diameter suggests if I mounted the cart inline with the pivot point this wouldn't happen(if you catch my drift).

 

Why not just grab a new stylus? If the old one is bent who knows what else could be going wrong? Would suck to lose a channel the next time the deck gets a bump, then you're stuck with weird timecode behaviour.

 

I have bought two new stylus'. I was just supprised how quick it failed/got damaged considering the amount of use it's had and was wondering if changing the cart angle might prolong the life of the new tips?

 

Yeah I do hear about the M44's feeling a little "flimsy". But then again, if you did give it a good knock without knowing you did, who knows how hard it got hit? Only takes one good smack, right? I always carry a pair of extra tips for my Ortos; many a time I've had a few too many and failed to stick the tonearm back on the rest, leading to a stylus bouncing off the platter or riding the slipmat.

 

The arm that the actual tip is attached to is quite long and "gangley" on the M44's. Like you say though, a little knock and any stylus can be in trouble.

 

i have it on 23 degree, and it was always fine - until i once lent my 44s to a friend and since then one stylus is not ok anymore... gotta get a new stylus now.

 

...it's called a 'cantilever'

I've used M44-7's for years now, and it's a known issue with them. What do you have the anti-skating dial set to (assuming you are using s-type arms)

the cantilevers will stress differently depending on whether or not your TT tonearm is S shaped or straight

the usual thing to do is to set the anti-skating value to the same as the weight value. (you didn't say how many grams you have it set to)

if you are using a weight value greater than 3 grams, just set it to the max (3 for older Technics TT's, but later Technics models allow for setting the anti-skate to a higher value)

 

Nice one.

I have the tracking weight set at 1.5 (M44G) and the anti skate at 0 (1200 MK2) currently.

Most things I have read recommend setting the anti-skate to zero. If I did put it on though, it would apply force in the opposite direction of the cantilever bend (which makes perfect sense).