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slow at loading samples / sounds etc

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by doc12inch, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. doc12inch

    doc12inch Forum Member

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    hello

    just got maschine and getting used to it


    one thing I have found is that on my mbp (2010 model) when browsing sounds i.e. kick drums the busy screen pops up everytime I load a sound and take a little while to load


    ive watched the vids on youtube and they load quicker than mine


    anyone have this slowness - im thinking in a live gig it will take ages to try and do anything on the fly

    thanks
     
  2. spacef2011

    spacef2011 Forum Member

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    it could be the hard drive that is slow (ie, where are the samples on the hard drive, age of the hardrive, etc etc).
     
  3. faster

    faster NI Product Owner

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    I have the same problem, similar specs, a bit better CPU, asked the same question but never figured out why...
    In my case, when I turn the pots to change Bank, Type, Subtype, I have slow response, that make the scrolling jumpy like a delay in movement, it does it more when I scroll when there is a lot going on...
    Soon I am going to Windows 7, 64 bit, I let you know if it gets better
     
  4. spacef2011

    spacef2011 Forum Member

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    64 bits in itself does not make the computer faster in any respect...
     
  5. faster

    faster NI Product Owner

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    Form Microsoft:
    The 64-Bit version will not really take off/Speed up your system unless you upgrade to at least 6GB of Memory.
    And some software may show no improvement at all.


    Most people say with W7-64bits things run better-faster...but faster in comparison to what-XP-32bit?
    Don't know ...

    But to the original post, I think I found the problem by moving the whole library to ANOTHER disc.

    Give it a try 12''
     
  6. spacef2011

    spacef2011 Forum Member

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    even with 24 GB of ram it won't speed up anything ;-)
    it will simply delay the moment when the computer is on his knees due to unsuficient ram.
    That's what microsoft "tries" to say (or to not say ;-) in the above quote.

    speed for sample loading will be the hard disk / SSD. with a lot of ram, you may avoid the need for window to write info on a swap file, but the gain would be moderate without a swap file. A lot of ram is very useful to avoid a computer hanging on a process that goes beyond the available ram (i work in video at the moment, and my 6GB ram are not enough, so computer is very unresponsive when it reach the max ram availbale). But this is not "speed".

    speed is mainly due to cpu for computing, then the motherboard architecture for overflows and the type of ram you can put in (ram exist at various speeds but all "specialist" confirm that above 1333 it is mainly marketing, not everyone needs overclocking), and then the hard disk which is another strong bottleneck for accessing files quickly. My apps boot 5 times faster now that i am on SSD, and that's the same computer than before.... Loading kits in maschine is done in a blink of an eye :)

    Even on a super fast mechanical hard drive, the begining of the partition and the end of the partition can show a decrease in performances, sometimes 10 times slower, and even more as you go to the end of the hard drive. The specification of a hard drive, when they annouce the speed, tell you only the "best scenario" possible at the begining of the hard drive, and tell you nothing about how speed decreases the more you go toward the end of the drive.

    that's why people partition their hard disk in 3 or more partitions and install whatever needs faster access on the first partition.... or they buy an SSD.

    and on the same computer, XP runs faster than widows 7, due to all the stuff that windows 7 brings (services, graphics etc, but i can't compare scientifically because XP has much less stuff installed now). I have both on my pc, but i prefer windows 7... not for the speed, but for the extra ram that 64 bits allows me to access and the more user friendly stuff here and there...
     
  7. doc12inch

    doc12inch Forum Member

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    Im going to move my samples from the main osx drive to my external drive with its own dedicated partition maybe that will speed things up