So, Reaktor 4 will actually work better than 3 in Sonar?

I'm pleased to see that Reaktor 4 is a reality, but as a Sonar user and someone that purchased Reaktor to specifically work in Sonar: Will Reaktor 4 work better in Sonar as dxi (let alone dxi2, I'm not that picky I just want it to be more stable) than 3?

The press release makes a lot of points about the graphic improvements and the VST improvements; but dxi implementation wasn't mentioned yet has always been a problem.

I know we all hope it will work better, but is there any definitive word on this from NI? I'll pay for an upgrade to get software to work in the manner I was originally told it would work, but I'd like some assurance that it will work.

 

Reaktor4 will support DXi2, and the VST improvment will also be included in the DXi2 version. I'm sure that it will also be more stabil, but because the update will be free, you can make your own opinion without paying for this update.

 

"supporting" dxi2 vs. stability

Hey Steffen,

Thanks for responding. Doesn't the idea of "supporting" a format, like dxi or dxi2 or VST or what ever, imply stability when used in that environment? Not to "pry" but I see you are a moderator of this forum, does that mean you are a representative of NI?

If I made drill bits that were supposed to drill through concrete and wood, but the shattered half the time I drilled through concrete, I really should never had said they drill through concrete right? (Sorry, I think in analogies; I lose a lot of people that way but it how my messed up mind works.)

Unless I'm missing something, I really have a problem with the idea that Reaktor "supports" dxi or dxi2 as being a separate concept from it's stability in those enviroments. As it stands now, Reaktor is just a very expensive toy that doesn't make into my actually music making process because of this issue.

again thanks for taking the time to respond.

 

Some of the stabilty problems of Reaktor emerged with the Sonar2 update, so it's not a good idea to use the SynthRack for NI products at the moment, this will be change with the DXi2 implementation. And of course Software should be always stabil, both as standalond and as plugin. The problem with Reaktor was sometimes, that the first version (Generator and Reaktor 2.0) was designed only for standalone use (there didn't exist any plugin format at this time), but i think we have solved this problem finally.

Btw.: I'm not moderator of this forum, but i'm writing the DXi2 code, because of this i answer DXi related questions in every forum ;-)

 

Great, that's one of the reasons I bought Sonar 2 - to use NI (Absynth, Reaktor, Kontakt) as DXi synths. And they won't work properly. Great.

 

Reaktor doesnt work perfectly in Sonar, we all know that. However, on my machine, all that happens is that Sonar occasionally crashes on shut down - and who cares because you were closing it anyway...

You possibly have a problem with your configuration. On my machine (Athlon XP, VIA KT133a chipset), Sonar + Reaktor used to crash all the time to the point of being unusable (like yours by the sound of it) but I emailed cakewalk and they gave me some configuration advice. This included making sure that Windows is not sharing IRQ's. Windows 2000/XP by default enables IRQ sharing. To disable this you HAVE to reinstall windows (unfortunately) and press F5 before the blue screen appears. Then select 'standard i486 mode'.

NI also told me to disable all ports on my dongle except USB.

Since then I have had minimal problems, and some projects never crash. The others occasionally crash on shut down, but like I say, thats neither here nor there in a pragmatic sense. Sonar never crashes while I am working on a song or during playback.

Synth Rack insertion doesnt work because the ensemble is not remembered in the .cwp file. But again this isn't important as there is no benefit in using the synth rack as Reaktor DXi doesn't multiple outputs.

Have you contacted Cakewalk support?

 

I've only had problems with Absynth so far - random crashes. XP, although usually stable compared to 98, has rebooted itself a number of times (usually you get kicked out to the "there's an error" dialog).
I've only begun using NI in Sonar (just got Sonar the other week) and I was putting it down to the MIDI channels I was assigning to each MIDI track. I'd mistakenly assigned the same channel to different tracks and thought that my problems had stemmed from there. Now I'm not so sure!

Cheers for the tips.

 

ive never had any stability problems with absynth, although it doesnt seem to remember the program bank sometimes. but anyway, make sure you have the latest absynth update as that seemed to fix a lot of glitches in sonar.

 

steffan said "but i'm writing the DXi2 code, because of this i answer DXi related questions in every forum ;-)"

hey much love to you man!!!!

anything we can do to help you out? send a fruit basket or something?

much respect and your work is very much appreciated!

jamey

 

It's good to know NI is working out the compatibilty problems with Sonar. I use Absynth and Reaktor with Sonar 2.1XL. Absynth has never given me problems, but Reaktor never remembers its setting and crashes on closing. I've always used the Synthrack for Absynth and Reaktor. I never thought of not using it for Reaktor. I'll try that out while I wait for the new Reaktor and Sonar 2.2.
Thanks to all of you on this thread for the advice.

 

Loading Reaktor the old-fashioned way (into the FX bin) solves the problem of it forgetting its settings. For me, at least, the crashing-on-exit problem is serious because it always ends up with XP in an unstable state - a total crash usually follows within about 10 minutes. I have had some success with closing the project (from the file->close menu in sonar) before exiting sonar - but this isn't a water-tight solution it seems.

Simon

 

Thanks everyone, esp Steffen, James

Hey,

Thanks everyone for responding. Steffen, I'm glad you as someone actually working on the issue responded; it gives me confidence that it will work as I had hoped.

And Thanks James for posted those ideas about what can make the current Sonar and Reaktor work better together. I'm already in the standard computer mode (running Win2K), but I'll look into the other ideas you listed-- once I print them out studio, (I don't do the internet on my DAW).

Anyway thanks for taking the time to respond.

later,

Lou Lasher