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SOLVED: VST3 please

Discussion in 'Feature Suggestions' started by Goldstein, Apr 21, 2012.

  1. Goldstein

    Goldstein NI Product Owner

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    Right, and NI have got the money. Enough money to develop VST3 versions, and a VST3 host.
     
  2. Goldstein

    Goldstein NI Product Owner

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    The two important hosts still missing VST3 are Reaper and Ableton Live. But I still think the implementation of VST3 or VST4 would be a good idea for NI.
     
  3. kubalibre77

    kubalibre77 Forum Member

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    Years later...

    any news on this?

    *crickets*
     
  4. backbeat2

    backbeat2 NI Product Owner

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    Why is Native Instruments not reacting?
     
  5. Elfen

    Elfen NI Product Owner

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    +1 for Vst 3
     
  6. kubalibre77

    kubalibre77 Forum Member

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    Sonar X3 now added full VST3.5 support

    so the list is now

    ProTools -- NO
    Cubase -- YES
    Nuendo -- YES
    Logic Pro -- NO
    Sonar X3 -- YES
    Ableton Live -- NO
    FL Studio -- YES
    Digital Performer -- NO
    Presonus Studio One -- YES


    So 5 out 9 major DAWs have VST3 support


    And by the way, the SDK for VST2 is now unavailable to developers, that means officially, it´s dead.
    Posted in September 2013:
    http://www.kvraudio.com/news/steinberg-ends-development-of-vst-2-23260

    "After introducing the SDK of version 3 to the VST community five years ago, we believe it's time that VST 2 slowly comes to an end," remarks Timo Wildenhain, product marketing manager at Steinberg. "VST 3 reflects today's technological advancements and meanwhile a considerable number of VST hosts and plug-ins support VST 3."

    "Our host applications, such as Cubase, Nuendo and WaveLab, will continue to support VST 2. We are, however, planning to make the SDK for VST 2 unavailable by the end of this year," Wildenhain continues.
     
  7. Freddie H

    Freddie H NI Product Owner

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    + +1.000.000 VST3 users waiting---....


    The vast majority of plugins support VST3 already today or going to be VST3 support very soon. Same story goes with DAWs!
    Those that continue to "troll" here that "that's not the case", can do own search!!


    NI is one of last major manufactories that still doesn't support it.


    Best Regards
    Freddie
     
  8. Goldstein

    Goldstein NI Product Owner

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    Yes, it's not good for innovation. We have to move forward with the standards. In my opinion NI should start to take a defining role in open audio standards. Anyway, a lot of manufacturers have been busy with the x64 migration back then, but this should be done by now. It's time to bring back innovation to the music instruments & fx business. The virtual studio is not fulfilled completely, we are still missing standards for pattern machines, usability standards, etc. and we still rely too much on the good old Midi instead to true potential of virtual technology (automatisation, DAW locked envelopes, sample clips, etc.).
     
  9. Freddie H

    Freddie H NI Product Owner

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    Good lord what a load of bullshit.
    Majority of DAWs support VST3 not VST2.4 only. Majority of all DAW users are on DAWs that support VST3 especially the professional users like myself.
    Because you user REAPER that haven't VST3 yet doesn't mean that we rest can't have VST3 and benefit from all the new great things that comes with VST3 technology.


    "Hard" because of new framework!? What are you talking about?
    All NET frameworks are backward compatibility + NET framework are just a extension and has nothing to do with VST3 format itself.
    C++, MS Visual basic and the Steinberg VST PACK is all you need to get going with VST3.5 format.


    Please stop make more stupid excuse why NI haven't add VST3 support yet. There are no excuse especially when other companies like example SoftTube that do all their work for them! Softtube own product-line support VST3.5 and all other formats on all their products they make include VST3 format for all NI softwares that have made. But still no official VST3 format from the "Softtube" NI product line. :thumbsdown: And NI continue to release completely new products in only VST2.4! :thumbsdown:


    :thumbsdown::mad:
     
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  10. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    .NET has absolutely no relation to VST3 format, you have no idea what you're talking about, so cut the crap already. VST3 is a completely different format to VST2.4, that's why things need to be recoded from scratch.

    In any case, stop badgering the forum with this already. Do you think NI isn't aware of VST3 existence? Do you think NI didn't wager already the workload necessary to recode all their stuff in VST3? Do you think they didn't already make a decision about this and WHEN if at all it will happen? Just be patient about this and shut up. Or go bark up a wrong tree elsewhere.
     
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  11. Freddie H

    Freddie H NI Product Owner

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    I'm not barking.. I'm telling you! :p:D


    " VST3 is a completely different format to VST2.4, that's why things need to be recoded from scratch."

    Does it take 8 years to do?...
     
  12. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Oh you're barking alright. Very annoyingly so, as well.

    If you have different priorities, like NI almost certainly has, then yes. Bear in mind that VST3 had (and still has) an extremely slow adoption rate. First 4-5 years you can completely scratch from your "8 years" calculation because nobody except Cubase had VST3 support, so it was not a priority to develop a VST3 plugin for any developer. And I don't think it's a priority even now, because VST2 is still working just fine and still has majority of support.

    At this point you have two options: either wait for as long as necessary for NI to come out with VST3 or go use alternatives and stop badgering this forum (you can easily be reported for spamming the subforums with duplicate threads). Pick one.
     
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  13. Freddie H

    Freddie H NI Product Owner

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    That last reply are so ridiculous so it's not even worth commenting...
     
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  14. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    See if I care.
     
  15. MidiFinger

    MidiFinger New Member

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    It is time to revisit this thread...
    With the current state of multi-core processors, the advantages of multi-threaded processing of large, high quality samples and multiple VST's with independent side-chained effects are HUGE.
    VST3's from Steinberg and Anatares are really, really nice.

    Update: Even Cakewalk Sonar and Adobe Audition support VST3 now.
     
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