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Studio drummer eat my cpu!

Discussion in 'KONTAKT' started by Peterjk, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Peterjk

    Peterjk New Member

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    Trying out Studio Drummer for the first time, I hear click and pops and realizes that it's maxing out my RTAS CUP at something between 75-90%!

    At one point I actually saw 102% on the meter if you believe that.

    I recon the clicks and pops are coming from the fact that my computer are not able to cope with Studio Drummer (v1.1). But, it's a fairly fast machine! A Mac Pro 2x26 Ghz Quad Core, with 14GB ram. This is in a test session with only SD initiated - nothing else.

    By comparison Abbey Road Drums are only at approx. 30-25% of the same RTAS CPU meter. Now I realize that all drumming samplers have a different degree of detail (=equal the amount of samples) but this is unusable.

    I am the only one, and can something be done?

    BTW: I am running 88.2 and from a (OWC) SSD drive.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2011
  2. David Das

    David Das Moderator Moderator

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    What's your buffer size set to?
     
  3. farazkan

    farazkan New Member

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    Hello there,
    I am having similar problem with my computer too. I am using Win XP. I have never had any problem before using VST plugins. This is the first time I have encountered a problem. I have Installed M-audio 2496 card and the latencey is not a problem at all. But for some reason my computer over loads pretty bad. What can i do to fix this problem? I have read that the Kontakt5 compatability is win 7 64 bit . If thats the case than would it not work on Win XP? I hear this what is buffer size set to? Can somebody explain it to me?

    Thanks.
     
  4. Peterjk

    Peterjk New Member

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    Buffer size 256

    I am running Mac OS on a Mac Pro. Don't know if the problem you are experiencing are the same.

    David: I am running with a hardware buffer size of 256 samples.

    I'm noticed that my problems are almost the same, regardless if I run in 44.1 or 88.2 kHz.

    Still confused. Native?
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    If I run with buffer size 512 I get a RTAS CPU load above 85% (with clicks and pops and "increase CPU Usage -9128 error)
    If I run with buffer size 1024 I get a RTAS CPU load between 60%-90% (with some clicks and pops)
    If I run with buffer size 2048 I get a RTAS CPU load between 65%-90%
    If I run with buffer size 4096 I get a RTAS CPU load between 75%-90%
    If I run with buffer size 8192 I get a RTAS CPU load between 75%-90%

    This all done in 88.2 with CPU Usage at 95% and 15 (out of 16) Host processors on, nut with only ONE instance of Native Instruments Studio Drummer.

    Can this be right?

    And what are the downside of running the buffer size that high?

    Kind Regards


    Peter
    www.peterjuulkristensen.com
     
  5. presence

    presence Forum Member

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    I'm also getting huge cpu usage with Studio Drummer in Logic Pro. It's definitely way out of the norm.
     
  6. farazkan

    farazkan New Member

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    Cpu usage

    I feel like I have tried everything too. It does not make any difference. I even downloaded the studiodrummer on my other computer with win 7 and 8 gig ram. Buffer size to 256. The cpu usage is little better it still goes up to 45% which means I cannot work anything else if Ihave kontakt 5 with studuio drummer is in use. It stilll did not make a difference. And now I am stuck with my purchase I cannot get my money back. Unless if Native insturment create some sort of patch for this software this problem will occur. I have been using plenty of VST plug-ins and never had this problem at all. I shold have dome more research before I bought this software.

    Good luck.
     
  7. thejj

    thejj Forum Member

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    Do you get this with using 8 out of 16 available processors? In my experience RTAS does not always play nice with 'virtual cores'.
     
  8. Peterjk

    Peterjk New Member

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    Studio Drummer is unusable - NI patch this up!

    Hi The JJ

    No, unfortunately I don't see or hear any difference in going down to 8 cores.

    I really hope NI would patch this up. For me Studio Drummer is unusable. If they at least could tell us what machine they were beta testing on?


    Peter
     
  9. nielsdolieslager

    nielsdolieslager NI Product Owner

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    :D
     
  10. thegreenman

    thegreenman NI Product Owner

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    i guess it makes a big difference if all those effects per mixer are on or off
     
  11. presence

    presence Forum Member

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    Thanks thegreenman, I'll try doing that.
     
  12. zzorro

    zzorro New Member

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    I agree with thegreenman. After loading the Session Kit and watching the CPU spike, I use the INT. preset which is basically no effects and the CPU bottomed out running 10 - 15%. So I believe the effect presets are the culprit.
     
  13. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Those effect busses are all chock full with effects, if you have a lot of them active, of course your CPU is going to cry for mercy. Nothing weird about it.
     
  14. zzorro

    zzorro New Member

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    Hey EvilDragon, Would you agree that the drum samples by themselves are a bit week and NI Studio Drummer needs all these effects to bring them to life?
     
  15. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    I don't have Studio Drummer, I can't comment on that. :)

    But drums by definition are the crappiest insturment that gets recorded, and usually needs a lot of processing to get it in the ballpark of what's needed for a particular song/project. So there's some food for thought ;)
     
  16. zzorro

    zzorro New Member

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    Thank you sir appreciate the input.
     
  17. foxdfive

    foxdfive NI Product Owner

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    Glad I read this I was thinking about buying studio drummer
     
  18. Custom Blue

    Custom Blue NI Product Owner

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    Ok I'm on XP which sort of counts me out for support but the only Komplete 8 instrument that is giving me grief is Studio Drummer which hogs more CPU than any other instrument. So much so that loading a full kit is paramount to a shut down.

    I can load Symphobia Multi's without any glitches at all and they are large. Guitar Rig 5 no problems at all which leads me to believe that something is not quite right yet with Studio Drummer. Let's hope some future update resolves the problem :S
     
  19. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    There's no future update that could resolve that "problem" I'd say - Studio Drummer simply uses a LOT of effects. Almost every effect slot (SIXTEEN Instrument Busses, each with 8 effects, 8 Insert effects, convolution send effect) is FULL. That's why it takes so much CPU.

    If you want it to use less CPU, use less effects. No other solution.
     
  20. Custom Blue

    Custom Blue NI Product Owner

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    Sorry I am lacking on the technical side I do not quite understand your reply. I am talking about loading the sound banks into Kontakt 5. I can load the lite versions but the full kit crashes (No pun intended) long before it is fully loaded. :S Surely at this stage there are no FX or certainly none that I have applied.