STUDIO DRUMMER GROVES NOT CHANGING BPM

Hi I want to use some groves samples in studio drummer but I need to adapt the BPM, so I change the BPM in studio Drummer and when I play the sample from there it actually changes, but when I drag and drop it to my Cakewalk DAW in a MIDI track it paste it but wont change BPM. Any Idea?

 

Tempo of the song is governed by your DAW, not Kontakt. I see you have unsynced tempo (Ext button is not pressed, which in normal case it should be when working in a DAW). If you need things to be double time, use the 2x option instead, THEN drop your MIDI to host:

 

well the thing is I recorded the guitars first, with click, and also not precisely at click and I need the grooves that might match but I need to adapt them to the click of the track I recorded in the daw, which is not half neither x2.
So if Studio Drummer has that option to set up your own bpm for each groove why can’t be used then? I mean if I cannot drag it and drop ot with the bpm I set in my midi track, that option is totally unuseful.
So ext button should be pressed and then it should work? I dont get the meaning of ext button

 

Ext button is explained in Kontakt's manual. Either way it has nothing to do with MIDI file output from Kontakt, it only has to do with syncing to host BPM.

You should first match the tempo of your guitar recording in your DAW (set your DAW to correct BPM where your guitars are aligned with the metronome), then enable Ext button in Kontakt, and MIDI files will be just fine then.

 

Hang on I’m not sure I understood.
The guitar recording is already done, the whole song is done, and I’m not gonna record it again to match the tempo of the grove in studio drummer. I actually did the drum track by myself not using groves in the plugin but using the piano keyboard and took me ages. Now I just want to add some feels in specific part of the track, tthe plugin has already some feels already done in the groves but as they are they wont match the bpm, so I need to manually modify the bpm in studio drummer and then drag and drop it in the part of the midi track i need. When I set up my own bpm in the plugin and I play the grove in the plugin I can hear the feel slowing doen or accelerating, but once I drag it to my track in the daw the bpm is not changed. Should I press ext to do that? Is it possible to do this or I need to cange the bpm in the daw? That means I have to record everything again cause I can not slow down my entire recording.

Another example is: there are several groves in the plugin, let’s take one at 120 bpm and another is 130 bpm, now I like those two groves and I want to use them in the same track, but they dont match bpm, so I need to bring the one at 130 bpm to 120 bpm, or vice versa, is this possible?

Thanks for your prompt answers by the way !

 

the bpm of the grooves listed is just a reference, you can play them at any tempo you want... if you set Kontakt to Ext as recommended and then preview the grooves, they will play at the tempo you have set in your DAW ( Kontakt must be loaded in your daw as a VST). And to get the guitar closer to the metronome click, just adjust the tempo (BPM) of your Daw until it matches as close as possible.

 

Its drum fill not drum feel.

 

You should probably watch this video as well...

 

Ok I got it so the problem is, I have two different tempo in the track, in the first part of the song is 120 bpm, the second part I didn't follow the click, so I want to be able to choos my own tempo in studio drummer, without ext, I just want to type the BPM manually and then drag and drop it to my track, is it possible?

It's very stange to me, the fact that studio drummer wont let you chose the bpm of the grooves, there must be a way, otherwise why they would let you edit the bpm in the plugin? if that wouldn't work? if I change BPM on my DAW it will work but it will modify the entire track messing it up, what if I have 2 different tempos in one track? this is not very flexible to use, what you are saying is I have to modify the BPM from the DAW so the studio drummer bpm will adapt to it,but this is not what I need, I need to be able to chose whatever BPM I want for any specific Groove in order to drag and drop it to my MIDI track.

Why it would let you even tap the bpm if would not be possible to then put the groove with that tempo in your track?

 

You're missing the point of that section of Kontakt entirely. It's been explained to you already. What you want is not possible, you need to change the tempo in your DAW in that other part of the song. Then whatever MIDI you drop in will work just fine.

Disregard the BPM section in Kontakt, this is only really used in standalone, or if you want to completely unsync Kontakt from the host, but this is an extremely rare thing to do. Just enable that Ext button and don't touch it anymore.

Studio Drummer itself cannot change the tempo of the generated MIDI - the scripting behind it doesn't support this at all. Again, this is supposed to be handled by your DAW!

Yes this is exactly what we're saying. Your DAW is the master, Kontakt listens. Any MIDI you drop in will follow your host tempo. That's all there's to it.

 

I understand ok. Thanks. I just did it manually adjusting the notes one by one to the midi track

 

That was unnecessary, you should've added a tempo marker in your DAW where the tempo of your recording changes and that would've sorted it out. Then you'd drop the MIDI and it would align nicely.

 

Not sure if I'll get any replies on this older thread, but my Studio Drummer seems to be lacking the BPM and Master Tune section, above New (default) in the screen shot up top. Any idea why that is?

 

Click the third icon from the left (next to the Gear icon) select “Master”

edit: Had to look it up, but it is called the Workspace Icon, and the resulting menu allows you to show/hide different elements of the interface (Browser/Keyboard/output/Master etc...)

 

Thanks, that was it! I was trying to change the tempo of some fills, that were different than the original beat

 

And just an FYI, the tempos listed for the grooves are suggested tempos, they can be used at any BPM, they are not Locked into that BPM.