SUCSESS - using TP - Professional !

hy,
after some problems in the first time, i managed to setup TP with sucsess !
the first day i downloaded TP, i started to switch.
used TraktorScratch with TT and a loop-player b4.
when the loop-player stopped working, i decided to switch,
setting up with no TT, 4 decks, FX, and a midi-controller, mpd24.

i started gridding all of my tracks, (1600) -
and setting up the key- and midi-controller to my liking.
reading lots of manuals, forums and such.

after 5 weeks of gridding with no crash at all - i decided to
try it out, and take it to the club.
50 min. after starting my set, the crash happened. BOOM.

since then i was heavily testing my system, changed the hdd (F/W ext.) , the usb-hub and tested.

now, after some more weeks w/o crashes, i had to decide if i want to do my last-night-gig with a vinyl-crate and 2 TT, or give ti a new go.
i did a real test yesterday, used all of the 4 decks, with lots of FX-tweaking, looping, and massive use of the midi-controller.
the system crashed once again, after 2 hours, then - after
a restart, it crashed again after 1 min.
my last chance was to change the cables, so i changed all of them. (the best quality i could get, very thick)

and then, i used it for 3 hours with no glitch.

even the Audio8 is plugged over the usb-hub,
because the mpd24 refuses to work when plugged via hub.

no problems at all.

last night, i had my "second" gig with TP, almost 4 hours, no problems at all.
and it was a BIG, a HUGE pleasure!

after taking over, and having some "intro-time" (talking bout minimal-techno) - i really started to get nuts.

to do all what TP can do at home, really is fun,
but when you do it in front of an audience,
that`s where the REAL FUN STARTS !

so, just to tell you: get the best cables, get a good usb-hub(powered) and see what you get out of your system,
then TP is a real "Christmas"-Gift !

miles

 

Awesome.

Next up, spelling 'success' with success!

 

i will.

 

Glad you rocked the house bro.
Thanks for giving us the report.

 

...Where best does NOT Equate to overpriced cables like Monster. I heard of a guy here locally who replaced all his cables with about $300 worth of Monster finary on the recommendation of one of his so called friends who worked for Best Buy. His dropout / freeze problems got worse not better. He tried a new short heavy gauge USB cable and all his problems with audio dropouts and lockups went away. I have long been of the opinion that Monstercables are a good way to donate money to a company for no good reason. My experience is that they provide little to no better operating improvements over good generic brand cables.

Price is NOT a direct indicator of cable quality and suitability. As urged by Miles, buy a heavy gauge cable. Heres why... the thinner the conductor the greater the voltage drop over the length of the cable, also the less current the cable can deliver. USB as you know provides 5.0Volts DC to the devices connected to it. The devices can be self powered or in the case of the A8 Bus powered. The A8 pulls about 420Milliamps at startup the limit is 500MA partly due to what is called in-rush current where the voltage is building in the circuit being powered. It does not take much effort from an inadequate cable to make the system not work or to breakdown due to inadequate power delivery. The lower limit for USB power is 4.85 - 49 volts, below that, USB devices can and will shutdown. In short, hear this man, his advice is good!

When looking for a Powered USB Hub look for one with a power brick rated to at least 800MA output. I have a 4 port Hub I got from Frys, the brick is rated to 1600MA. The adapter is large and heavy but it easily powers my A8, 2 SCS3.d's and allows me to run the BCR2000 or Kaoss Pad both of which are self powered. Like the cables ,cost does not equate to quality or adequacy of the product to do the job, choose carefully.

 

Good advice - thanks!

 

Which USB cables would you recommend. Link perhaps?

Thanks
JP

 

Monster Cable are f'n monsters who filed over 300 lawsuits against innocent companies. Here's one of them:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...rms=algo=SI&its=I&itu=UCI&otn=40&po=LVI&ps=54

 

last week i had a gig with 2 traktor pro....

doing live PA mix with 2djs, 1 percussionist, 2 laptop, 2mixer, and 7 CH track for 5 hour....

it's all keboard n mouse (track pad) controlling...
no vinyl, no midi....

it just laptop, Traktor, A8DJ, and mixer....
44.1KHz, 15ms Latency setting.

and its great!
no crash at all....


here what ist look like:

 

First time I tested TS Pro was on new year's eve
6hours straight, not a single crash, error, bug etc..

The only issue was exporting library & playlists from Windows to Mac. (Due to file paths in windows for a hard drive named MYHDD (W:/) being W:/myfolder/mysong.mp3 and on a mac it'd be: MYHDD:myfolder:mysong.mp3)

 

I have not had any significant crashes... Here and there I have had an issue where I have to restart Traktor, but this has mostly been when I am doing a bunch of midi mapping. One other crashy-glitchy thing that happens is that occasionally, I will load a track into a deck and get no sound from it. If I reload the same track, no audio. I'll load a different track and there will be audio.

I am using my 1D's and Audio8 with their supplied cables. The Audio 8 has a RF filter on the computer end of it, I assume because of potential wifi noise, the A&H supplied cables seem pretty run-of-the-mill.

Any thoughts as to whether or not these are sufficient? Should I be looking for an upgrade?

 

That's sweet!

 

+1!

 

totally agree, these cables i use aren`t the cheapest, but they are NOT overpriced.
get good quality, thick cables.

 

This behavior is one of the several reasons I refuse to buy any Monster cable. I would rather do without a cable than buy a Monster cable... and I counsel people I come in contact with to do the same. I nearly got kicked out of circuit city one night for telling a guy about to buy $450.00 worth of cables from a local place instead on Monster. He got what he needed for less than $200.

 

I just saw a Monster HDMI cable at Fry's for $250. I nearly shat myself laughing.

 

God that's crazy. What an evil company. Like a mini golf place could somehow tarnish the "monster cable" name?

 

Yeah but when you are such a defensive player as Monster clearly is, you get yer quarters where you can... from stupid people that think price = quality in all cases and from entrepreneurs who are no threat to you but who you think you can extract money through unnecessary legal pressure.
I'm not sure whose worse in this case the blight on landscape that is Monster Cable or its legal parasite. I would not shed a tear if both were run out of business.

Phil

 

What is really good is asking the sales idyit to explain why you would pay that price and what it was so much better than its $7-$38 competitor. You get everything from discussions of analog signalling theory to plain "uhmm I dunno, these are just the best quality cables on the market" If you work it right you can lead em down a path where they have no choice but to admit that have no idea what they are on about and they are just paid to hawk the product.
I thought I heard that a couple of sites that reviewed them got C&D letters and takedown orders, while a couple of sites that praised these cable were untouched...I think it was for these monster Lo-O2Cu cables.

BTW I bought the $7 competitior cables.... zero problems!

 

Hi tech has engendered its own snake oil salesmen spouting ethereal nonsense to take advantage of people's ignorance. It was always like this in the audiophile realm, and now that home entertainment centers are all the rage, it's definitely trickled down.

I own some Monster cables, bought before I did any research about cable quality, etc. They aren't terrible, or anything -- in fact, mostly they're pretty decent, and better constructed than a lot of generic stuff -- but they also aren't anything so great as to justify the over-the-top pricing.

My wife just bought one of their power conditioners, and I just kept my damn mouth shut.