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Dieses Thema im Forum "Feature Suggestions" wurde erstellt von Almaz, 22. April 2020.

  1. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the support ✊
     
  2. SanderSantema

    SanderSantema NI Product Owner

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    All very nice stuff, but I'd like to ask the NI developers to not do this. Interoperability with other tools is unbelievably important, not writing any info to tags would make this impossible, furthermore I believe it's already possible for traktor to write either all tags, only traktor specific or nothing. If anything I'd like traktor to write more info to my tags, for instance saving cues to a binary tag. This would serve as a backup of my traktor collection contained in the files themselves.
     
  3. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, it would be better to improve the export function, as I wrote in paragraph 30, where the export would have compatibility with other DJ programs, the export could be done by folders, and the export could be done between the traktor on different computers.
    When you talk about binari tags, you mean regular tags like album, artist, comment?
     
  4. SanderSantema

    SanderSantema NI Product Owner

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    That would certainly be nice too, I think you have a point there. In any case I think it would assure people they can buy and start to use traktor worry free given that you can always export your data.

    I hoped to use the what I believed to be correct technical term for stuff like cue data stored in a tag. Binary tags are for instance tags which contain images. But now that I thinking about it I don't know for sure if traktor was already storing things in the binary tags and if it's the correct technical term.

    FYI if you want to have a look at all the metadata/ tags which are actually contained in your file this is a very nice tool: https://exiftool.org/
     
  5. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    I added some add-ons to improve traktor export function

    30. Export Collection

    Make export easier:
    Add to Export - export samples, remix packages from C: \ Users \ user \ Music \ Traktor
    ContentImport
    Recordings
    Samples

    Traktor Settings

    Because now, in order to transfer the library, samples, remix packs, records, traktor settings - we need to do everything manually in several stages and this is not a good solution, need to make it easier for djs
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    4.
    Also addition to paragraph
    Remove useless categories or let them hide
    Hide
    Artists
    Labels
    Releases
    Itunes

    There is no point, and no one ever uses folders such as artists, labels, releases, genres,

    Another issue with the collection folder
    Now, in the shared folder, the collection makes no sense, it's just a collection of everything,
    it’s best to immediately divide it into the correct categories, this thing was always annoying in the rekordbox, but in the rekordbox, I used 4 tags + track filter, so when I selected my any personal tag in the filter, all samples and other garbage disappeared, the general collection in the traktor - This is a mountain of garbage. (sorry)

    I would do it like this

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    To enable disabling itunes, I use itunes only to buy tracks, and I don’t want it to be in the tree with folders at all or somehow connected to the traktor, and I don’t want the traktor to load the itunes library by default every time

    Add the ability to leave any drive or folder in the computer
     
  6. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    I am very glad to see the long-awaited smart playlists in Traktor, thanks to NI for listening to us.
    I wanted to recommend adding the rule option as AND/OR
    When in the playlist we can have two colors or two other tags.

    In this case, playlists will be more functional.

    Best,
    Pavel

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  7. ErikMinekus

    ErikMinekus NI Product Owner

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    In your example you can just uncheck "Match all conditions". But I assume you want a combination of AND and OR rules? Or one rule with multiple values for Color?
     
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  8. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    Yes, now if we uncheck the box, then the rule for the entire playlist works like OR, but we need the AND rule to work for each tag
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  9. dj_estrela

    dj_estrela Well-Known Member

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    hi Almaz,
    pretty impressive work you have here. Thanks for making this index of your detailed posts.
    Regarding browser I was expecting you to mention the "include subcrates" feature of Serato. Are you familiar with it?

    Second, also surprised you did not mention elastic beatgrids. Personally these are my top 2 requests
    https://github.com/pestrela/music/blob/master/traktor/README.md#Which-features-I-miss-in-Traktor

    cheers
     
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  10. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    I would like to suggest adding a caption option for the tag color, anyone can use this label as energy level, mood or other characteristics of the track
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  11. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    Hi dj_estrela , thanks for your support. I have not written about subscrates, because I think that this is the same as smart playlists, or am I wrong?

    I didn’t write about elastic grids, because I play little old music or live music, so I didn’t pay attention to it, but of course sometimes I also meet tracks in electronic music, which go out of rhythm and sometimes I did not understand how to fix it. I think you are right, because in rekordbox or serato there was no such problem when I used them before. I will add this offer to my offer list. Thank you, I read your page on github, you also did a great and many years of work. :thumbsup:
     
  12. Vinyl Tap

    Vinyl Tap NI Product Owner

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    I hate to say it, Almaz, but from the look of a lot of your suggestions, I think you'd be happier with VDJ.

    Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.
     
  13. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    many suggestions does not mean that I do not like the traktor. I tried VDJ, I don't like the interface,the effects are not good and there is a lot that I don’t need, not a pretty font. If we talk about stability, then I had friezes even in the short time that I was testing vdj, so I did not like vdj,
    and I stay in the traktor camp), thanks for the offer
     
  14. dj_estrela

    dj_estrela Well-Known Member

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    This is an automation that works for any folder and any tree structure.

    Simplest is to show an an example.
    Imagine you have this strucuture:

    Music collection
    ..Dance
    ..Rock
    ..HipHop
    ....Old school
    ......file1
    ......file2
    ....New hiphop
    ......file3
    ......file4

    in traktor, clickling on "hiphop" will show nothing. Because the files are inside the specific playlists.
    in serato, same story if "include subcrates" is OFF.

    however, if "include subcrates" is ON, then clikcing hiphop will show 4 files, taken from both oldschool and new school.
    This is similar how the whole collection contains all files from all playlists, but generalized to specific localized folders with ONLY its sub-folders contents.

    So no mixing of hip-hop with dance, and all of this automatic for any tree structure.

    From the serato manual:
    https://support.serato.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001013076-Intro-Setup
    "Crates Include Subcrates: When enabled, Crates in your Library will also show the contents of any included Subcrates. "
     
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  15. Vinyl Tap

    Vinyl Tap NI Product Owner

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    ^This is the kind of automation that seems obvious - but doesn't get implemented (especially in early feature releases).

    PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS, NI! :)
     
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  16. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    Thank you dj_estrela for the detailed explanation, now I understand that this is a handy function, I often miss this function in spotify when I want to listen to all subfolders, because I have a lot of nested folders.

    I think a smart playlist can replace this function, we just create a smart playlist, where we indicate
    Hip-hop
    New AND old hip-hop

    but now this cannot be done, because the rule AND/OR works either for everyone AND either for everyone OR, the same restriction was in the rekordbox, and many DJs on the pioneer forum asked their do it, I told Sander @ NI about it.
    Great request, I would like to be able to set a separate rule AND/OR for each tag, and then it would be an alternative way to Serato subcrates and NI would not have to do a new function.
     
  17. dj_estrela

    dj_estrela Well-Known Member

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    I think we both are right, if we split these features:
    - mixed AND/OR inside a smartlist are useful for a lot pf expressions
    - automatic include subfolders are useful when you have hundreds of folders and will save you to manually create hundreds of corresponding smartlists by hand

    This is the size and depth of my collection, BTW
    https://github.com/pestrela/music/b...-your-collection-how-broad-is-your-collection
     
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  18. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    Friends, I've updated the design of my prototype.
    I added an effect panel
    Track filter
    and other elements
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  19. Almaz

    Almaz Well-Known Member

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    Add darkening of the track line in the browser if it was played in the current session
     
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  20. Dj pako

    Dj pako NI Product Owner

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