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suggestions on studio monitor headphones?

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by audiophlex, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. flux302

    flux302 NI Product Owner

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    No not flat.... the Krk weren't flat is my point . They lacked in bass to the point it was like a role off causing it to be difficult to properly mix the low end. I don't want over hyped bass I want flat response down to at least 45 Hz these didn't do that was my point.
     
  2. trux

    trux NI Product Owner

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    i really like the beyerdynamic dt 880 pros. great sound, also very comfortable for long sessions.

    comfort is important tho, and everyones ears are slightly different - so make sure you try em on before buying.
     
  3. Airyck

    Airyck NI Product Owner

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    +1 I've written a lot of tracks on these alone and they always seem to translate really well!
     
  4. loscolorados

    loscolorados Forum Member

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    + 1000
     
  5. spacef2012

    spacef2012 NI Product Owner

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    I totally disagree with Flux :)
    I had a sony 75xx for years, it made my ears bleed due to infra bass that are not heard :)
    I guess the KRK are what I've been looking for. I find them more "closed" than the sony for singers ( i owned sony since 1992, until last year).
    Lots of bass in my KRK. May be too much sometimes. Lots of volume too on my soundcards headphone plugs (Sonic core Xite-1 and NI KA6). Just like speakers, headphones must be tested, not everyone hears or wants to hear the same thing. I never mixed so easily on KRK system.
    KRK is not flat, it is closer to monitors for mastering than anything else.
    But saying that they lack bass may point to a defective unit. They have lots of bass. Much more than any sony or anything else I tried.
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    That's what I can achieve now. It soundsd the same on any system I tried. Studio, Hifi, mastering facility (I've tried 4 mastering studios, all with big and expensive systems).....
    I had several of those "flat" stuff, i still do. Worked a fews years in pro studio too (not sure that tells anything, but just to say that i have experience with a dozen of brands and models of speakers in 3 big pro studios).

    Flat is a view of mind (useless) without proper room treatment that makes the room flat too. Many people don't take care of this, making their flat speakers completely un-flat, missing completely the point of "flatness" ;-)
     
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  6. flux302

    flux302 NI Product Owner

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    It's funny cause I've heard people talk about good bass in the kirk and both sets I used were VERY much lacking in the bass. Its possible they were faulty or not properly broken in yet.
    As for your ears bleeding we all know that's cause you were mixing those lady gaga remixes ;)
    I haven't had that issue at all... as I said personal preference will be king.
    Sennheiser has some choice sets as well.
     
  7. spacef2012

    spacef2012 NI Product Owner

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    as for your ears bleeding we all know that's cause you were mixing those lady gaga remixes
    >>>

    hehe, busted :)
    I agree with you, it is about preferences and confort. I don't think anyone can work confidently with something he doesn't like at all whatever is the brand or reputation.
     
  8. Upright

    Upright NI Product Owner

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    My experience with KRK as far as monitors go is too much low end (For me personally) The headphones on the other hand are just right (for me personally) I find that I can mix in my KRK 6400's, take them off and my mix sounds good on my monitors.
     
  9. [W] Squared

    [W] Squared NI Product Owner

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    I think it is a personal preferance! I own a few headphones and the one that i keep coming back to is my Audio-Technica ATH-M50. I think it is a great buy, just under 150.00 the last time that i checked. It is very affortable for the sound that you get out of them.
     
  10. TJ

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    Senn HD600s, but you need a good amp or output to drive them. @Widowmaker, still have pair of HD200s but they need repairing, but yeah they are good mixing cans for closed back. :)

    --For your price range used HD600s off ebay new, also check out the Shure SRH840, seem to be becoming a studio standard like the SM58 heh.
     
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  11. bcoco85

    bcoco85 NI Product Owner

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    i agree with comfort, over long sessions.

    i would like to test those beyerdynamic. i have akg k240 mkii, and i can say that tey are comfortable too.
    but in find them flat., maybe a bit hard to propertly mix. (my little experience makes this harder)
    but very good for long night sessions, because they are comfortable
     
  12. GrahamSmithy

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  13. Bertotti

    Bertotti NI Product Owner

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    Had some Sony MDR V600, got them for 99$ a very dry long time ago. My son uses them now and they keep on performing. I now use the Beyerdynamic DT 880 pro 250ohm. Love them but at times I miss the Sony's. They both perform equally as well but they do not sound the same and I had the Sony's so long I just got used to them even though I think they were a bit more bass heavy then the DT and they were closed back instead of semi open. The DT I can wear all day the Sony were less comfortable.
     
  14. de wouzer

    de wouzer NI Product Owner

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    i love my Beyerdynamic DT 880 PRO
    beautiful sound, nice to wear
     
  15. fusionid

    fusionid NI Product Owner

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    I own an recommend the Beyerdynamic DT 880 PRO. I do find difficult to ascertain different frequencies but overall it is probably as good as possible on headphones
     
  16. dippy

    dippy NI Product Owner

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    Still recommend the most NOT talked about cans in the biz......

    KRK 8400's.

    comfy, accurate, durable, and won't break the bank.
     
  17. Joca

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    Even without room treatment, I suspect that it is worthwhile purchasing equipment with a flat frequency response if you are to achieve any sense of accuracy.

    As for headphones, I find that my Yamaha RH-5Ms are just as good as my more expensive Sennheiser Ovations to confirm that the mix sounds OK on headphones.
     
  18. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    I always felt that headphones and monitors were unnecessarily overpriced

    with speakers ok if u are buying for live use or a club or studio ok I understand shelling out,

    but the average non pro user at home i dont think spending hundreds on speakers or headphones is a good idea

    like i recently purchased the HD 25-1 II for £150 odd and the sound was not too dissimilar to some other urbanears £30 heaphones; so I sent dem shits back.

    Same with the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro I got those for about £130ish sent them back not worth it.

    now I have the Audio technica ATH30x's which cost £40 and they sound as good as those £100 plus headphone's so why bother spend big cash?
     
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  19. LowPass

    LowPass NI Product Owner

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    AKG 702's are what i have, very good bit of headphone. very flat accurate response.
     
  20. LowPass

    LowPass NI Product Owner

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    Simple answer, there is a difference.

    I have a set of 40 pound headphones and also a set 260 pound headphones. And the clarity and response in the expensive pair is far better. It's like listening to my music through a microscope. I can hear loads more detail of what is going on. stuff that would mis using the cheaper pair.

    as it happens the detail is so much in the expensive pair that I only use them for mixing down. they are too unforgiving for general jamming.