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Switching from 1.2.6 to 2.1.1 The beatgrid of some of my tracks changed.

Discussion in 'TRAKTOR PRO / TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO' started by master18, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. master18

    master18 New Member

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    1) I just upgraded from 1.2.6 to 2.1.1 and found out that some of my tracks dont have the beatgrid that i made at the last version,it's about at 20% of my tracks.Also TAP is not re-arranging the beatgrid anymore.Is there anyway to avoid doing it manually all over again?Because if there is not i will switch back to the good old traktor.

    2)Also another thing at the older traktor i could go over the bar where the whole track is shown and click on a cue point with my mouse.Now it's only doing it in sync and not at the point where the cue point is,i guess in order to maintain the same flow.Is there anyway to deactivate this function ?
     
  2. malzfreund

    malzfreund NI Product Owner

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    let me guess: only FLACs are affected? (second possibility: your tracks weren't locked)
     
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  3. DJ MiCL

    DJ MiCL Member

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    I know you didn't ask for this sort of meddling but if you play mostly digital music, I highly recommend you stick to pro 2 and re-beatgrid.

    I can't answer why they changed, but you can easily grid tighter grids in 2.0, I'd persally go through all my tracks before I play them for the first time in 2.

    You remember how beat matching quickly (obviously with accuracy) was sort of a virtue with turntables? I think that the new virtue to replace that is to be able to beatgrid like a walk in the park.

    I think I'm really crossing the line here but... Hey! Consider it as an opportunity to practice!

    Or not...
     
  4. master18

    master18 New Member

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    No the tracks are mp3.And no they werent locked..and why should they be..its the same software it should work even better and not mess up the beatgriding i've done so far..Im disappointed from native instruments,and a week a go i did the survey where they asked our opinion about the software etc..
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    Look..first of all thank you for your time..This is not a matter of passion with music,this is a problem im facing and honestly i feel like a wasted 35 euros to upgrade to a version that doesnt behave as it should in relation to the older versions.I mean it's still traktor isnt it ? how many are the new owners and how many those who already had traktor and wanted to upgrade ? I imagine the majority already had traktor,so it's natural to have a pre-beatgrided database.So im asking how could they miss this ?
     
  5. malzfreund

    malzfreund NI Product Owner

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    w/e, i didn't read your entire rant. traktor 2 requires re-analysis of tracks and the doc/readme specifically instructs users to lock the beatgrids
     
  6. master18

    master18 New Member

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    evn if so..i should lock each track one by one..does this seem logical to you ?
     
  7. malzfreund

    malzfreund NI Product Owner

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    who says you have to do it one-by-one?
     
  8. master18

    master18 New Member

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    i didnt know that,how is it possible ?
    so then i can re-import my tsi and all will be alright ?
     
  9. dannybyrne29

    dannybyrne29 NI Product Owner

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    TP1 and TP2 analyse tracks/stripes differently so unless you lock your tracks then yes it will move your grids/cue points.... !
     
  10. master18

    master18 New Member

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    ok so how can i lock ALL of my tracks ?
     
  11. dannybyrne29

    dannybyrne29 NI Product Owner

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    you need to do it one at a time i'm afraid ... you need to get into the habit of gridding your track then locking it when its done to stop future issues like this ..!
     
  12. mastermc

    mastermc NI Product Owner

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    select all the tracks you want to lock, right click and click "enable bpm lock"
     
  13. Chris Race

    Chris Race NI Product Owner

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    No you don't :cool: ! In TP2 you can mark all of your tracks and then hit the "Enable Beat Lock" in the context menu.

    ...damn, mastermc was faster :)
     
  14. DJ MiCL

    DJ MiCL Member

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    Oh I see now.. I remember I was frustrated when I first switched over to 2. The beat grids are not really gone but, TP2 re-analyses and sets a new beatgrid right? - which is always worse than the TP1 manually adjusted grid...

    I forgot about all that since I play only new tracks most of the time.

    You're totally right. Traktor can do a better job handling setting files in general, I think. Should have at least warned you when you chose to copy over the settings from 1.2.6.
     
  15. master18

    master18 New Member

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    ok but i think you misunderstood..i have to lock the files to tsp1 first and then import them to tsp2.And the only way to lock in tsp1 is manually..I've sent a mail regarding this thread to the support team,we'll see what they have to say about this.It seems strange to me that i'm the only one complaining about this.Didnt any of you encounter this inconvinient bug ?
     
  16. DJ MiCL

    DJ MiCL Member

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    master18,

    What you want to achieve is importing your tracks without overwriting the old settings, right?

    If you disable the two "analyze when..." options in the file management page of settings, TP2 should do nothing to your files until you tell it to. Then, you can lock the BPM of all tracks.

    Nonetheless you will need to analyze your files before first time playing in Traktor 2. But that's not a bug, it's a function to enhance the program by updating the waveform/grid info.

    I guess that the software could have "forewarned" you that "if you want to keep your old grids intact, disable auto-analyzing options" or something like that. Or a "lock all tracks before importing" check box maybe..
     
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  17. resinmatt

    resinmatt New Member

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    Seems that this thread has slowed down somewhat - I'm trying to solve the same problem at the moment and finding it quite frustrating to say the least.
    My entire collection is flac and 90% of it in TPS1 was gridded, cued and lock, when I opened the first of my tracks in the new TPS2 I noticed the gird was off- so re-analyzed which corrected the bmp and any autogrid tracks but has left the cue points out of whack!
    Anyone found a solution or experiencing the same problem?