SYNC button: I want to disable permanent sync, but still beat match decks

Hi guys,

I'd like to do beat matching the way it's done with basic DJing software with the behavior I describe hereafter:

- 2 tracks with different BPM loaded in decks A and B
- Tap on the SYNC button on Deck B
- Deck B syncs its tempo with Deck A
- No SYNC start mode, immediate start of the track when I press PLAY/CUE, even if I don't do it at the right moment.

Tempo/Beat Sync modes are very cool when you've got all your tracks well prepared, but sometimes I need to work with the basic way.

Also, what would be the quickest way to manually tap the beat of a track in order to correct the grid with the S4 ? Is there a shortcut ?

I use Traktor 2.5.1 with a S4. I preferably wouldn't want to change the S4's default mapping on the SYNC button.

Thanks for your help.

 

Best way is to properly beat grid your tracks.

Check out this mapping which should speed it up for you:
http://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/555

It's takes 5 seconds to enable and disable mappings in Traktor so you can just enable this Beat griding mapping when importing new tracks and then disable once you are done.

 

You have a couple of options. You could map a couple of buttons on your keyboard to the tempo sync midi command. This more or less does exactly what you want. The other way is to start the track playing and then turn sync on and then off again. Stop the track and cue back. The third option is to press play while pressing the top of the platter. Then it works like dropping a piece of vinyl. Just let go when you are ready.

 

Or turn off the quantize.

 

Quantize, snap and master tempo are already disabled.

The problem is that my SYNC button remains lit, I just want it to automatically adjust tempo to the other Deck and not be permanent, which probably causes the PLAY/CUE to not be instant.

 

and you have it set to 'temposync' not 'beatsync'?

 

I tried both modes, but SYNC button and quantized-like mode seem to persist.

 

Please read my post again and note that the tempo sync midi command is not the same as setting tempo sync in preferences.

With sync turned on the track will always start "in sync" regardless of quant or snap settings. To answer the OP question sync needs to be off.

 

Ok, here we go.

First of all, as previously suggested, you should set your syncing setting to "Tempo Sync" in Traktor settings. With "Beat Sync", you can't bend tracks while they're in active sync cause "Beat Sync" will correct them in next beat. What you want is "Tempo Sync".

After that, to make both tracks same tempo, just hit the sync button to enable sync then hit again to disable. This will set the tempo of subject track to master. But there is a catch; if you haven't played subject track yet, pressing sync will set the tempo to master but pressing again will disengage sync and reset tempo. If you do this trick while subject track is playing (it doesn't have to be in the mix, just set your volume fader to zero) disengaging sync won't affect synced tempo. So you will have tempo synced track without sync engaged. Your welcome

Now there is whole another thing. If your quantize is ON, then whenever you press CUE or PLAY it will be quantized. Everything quantized on master tempo. If your master tempo is your live playing deck, and your cue point is exactly on beat (like, if your SNAP was on while you were setting CUE point) then whenever your press CUE it will always be on perfect time, so you can't use it like old-school decks.

To summerize all of this:
Sync mode in settings: Tempo Sync
QUANTIZE: OFF
SNAP: ON or OFF, your preference

To mix antoher track:
1 - Set volume fader to 0
2 - PLAY (set ON)
3 - SYNC (set ON)
4 - SYNC (set OFF)
5 - PLAY (set OFF)
6 - Rewind the track to start (SHIFT - CUE)

After these steps with this setting, you will be able to play CUE instantly so you will need to bitch bend a little to get tracks in sync.

Aaannndd, This is the tip you're looking for:

If you BPM lock is not enabled on a track, you can adjust beat grid by tabbing SHIFT on S4. You should press at least 4 times to get it activated.

 

Correction. Quantise can be on but snap HAS to be OFF for the above process to work.
It also doesn't matter wether you have temposync or beatsync set in preferences if you want the above process again.

And if someone would actually read what I wrote instead of just skimming it and thinking you know what I am trying to say....

THERE IS A MIDI COMMAND CALLED "TEMPOSYNC" (which has nothing to do with temposync in preferences) which will match the BPM of the deck without engaging sync

 

It seems the questions of the topic starter are still not addressed nor answered it properly. I'm new to traktor especially to kontrol S2. I have the same question. I want to disable or off the SYNC button permanently. Is that possible in traktor mode not in midi mode? I downloaded the controller editor but still no luck to off the SYNC button permanently. it can only be OFF in MIDI mode but not on traktor mode. but if wont in traktor mode technically, I will bear with it anyway.

thanks!

 

What does it really matter? If you don't use it, then you just don't use it. The only scenario I can imagine here, is you care what other ppl think, and you want to show/prove that you don't use it lol?

 

so your are a SYNC DJ though?

all I want to know is if there is a possibility to turn it OFF Permanently. that's it.

simple questions need simple answers.

Peace!

 

No, not a sync DJ. I would never rely on something else. I just look at it as completely foolish to care if it is there, that's all. If it's not lit up, then it's off.

 

Good to know that you are not a sync DJ.

I know NI did that on purpose. The magic "SYNC". As I've said, we/the topic starter wants to know if there's a possibility to turn it OFF permanently the sync function.

 

Snap, snaps the cue point on beat when setting a cue point. Quantize, quantizes your hitting on cue point. With snap ON, you would set your cue points on beat. Cue points won't be between 2 beats. If you set snap OFF, then you can set a cue point anywhere.

Quantize on the other hand used while playing. Hitting on play or cue button can be quantized to time perfectly with master clock. If quantize on, it is just not possible to hit cue on wrong time. If you turn quantize OFF track playback starts instantaneously.

You're actually right and it doesn't matter if you have tempo sync or beat sync set in preferences. I just thought that it is what he wants in generally.

 

just turn the button off. i'm not understanding the problem here?

what do you mean by "traktor mode" and "midi mode"?

 

please refer on your "Controller Editor Manual" Pages 105-106.

http://co.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=freeupdates#Controller_Editor

 

ah. now i understand what you mean...

AFAIK, you can not delete sth from the traktor mode, only midi commands. but i'm not 100% sure, pls contact support for a definite answer (i'm not using the s2/s4).

however, as long as you dont hit the sync button you dont sync. so you just dont need to use it if you dont want to.

 

thanks!

I know that. I just want to know if there's a possibility to terminate permanently the sync button. hit or not hitting it, it will not work. simple as that.

but it seems NI didn't do some parameters for disabling that function/button. so better leave it there and you're right! Don't hit it instead.