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Syncing Loop Machine to Metronome

Discussion in 'GUITAR RIG' started by thumky, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. thumky

    thumky Forum Member

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    Hi,
    I'm tryinging to understand what NI means when they say you can sync the Loop Machine to the Metronome. Does that mean i can record a loop at 120bpm, then change the metronome to 110bpm and have the loop play slower?
    Hmm i can't get that to work. I just want to make sure i understand correctly.
    thx,
    md
     
  2. Roming22

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    Hi,

    Nope. While in sync mode, no matter when you press the record/stop buttons, it will always trigger on the closest beat.

    I never use the tape recorder, but have a look. It might be able to speed up/slow down a recording, although that won't be synced to the metronome.

    Cheers
     
  3. thumky

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    Thanks. So what does the Sync button do then? How would you use it?
     
  4. thumky

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    The Pre Tape Deck almost nails it!
    You can loop and change tempo, but unfortunately you can't do a Tap Tempo, so i have no hope of syncing up with a live drummer. Such a bummer, so close.
     
  5. Roming22

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    Sorry to hear it's not doing what you hoped.

    You use it to create 'perfect loops'.
    Example:
    - start the metronome.
    - record 4 beats of some stuff (keep it short). On purpose try to stop the recording button slightly before or after the 4th beat.
    - wait for the loop to run 20 times
    - notice that your loop is slowly getting out of time with the metronome

    Activate the sync feature, and repeat: you'll notice that your loop stays perfectly in time with the beat.

    Hope I cleared that for you ;)

    Cheers
     
  6. thumky

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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  7. Roming22

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    Hi,

    I configured my home-made MIDI pedal today, and while playing with the loop-machine, I was reminded of a feature I forgot to talk to you about.

    While the sync button is on, when you stop the loop playing, and restart it, it will restart it from the proper beat. So the stop button is kinda behaving like mute.

    I've understood it is not the kind of feature you're intersted in, but I decided to put it there in case somebody stumble on this thread during a search.

    Cheers
     
  8. thumky

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    Sweet. Yeah i looked into MainStage 2 and you can't do it either. GR is very very close. You can do it with that Boss loop pedal tho. I'd like to hear more about your homemade pedal... do you have a thread about it? I use a FCB1010 + Midi Solutions box.
     
  9. Roming22

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    It's a 3x3 array of momentary switches (with appropriate LEDs).

    It's is driven by a teensy++ 2.0, and some C++ code I hacked quite quickly.

    What's nice about it is that since I have complete control, I can do anything, such as transforming a momentary switch into a latched switch (reverse is not possible).

    So here's how I set it up.

    First row:
    * A 'shift' switch: so instead of 9 controls, I have 2 bank of 8 switches.
    * Previous/Next preset buttons: configured identically on both bank, since I want quick access at all time

    Second row:
    * Bank 1: Tuner / Metronome On-Off+LoopMachine Sync / Tap Tempo
    * Bank 2: Small Volume Boost / Medium Volume Boost / Big Volume Boost

    Third row:
    * Bank 1: LoopMachine Start / Stop / Undo
    * Bank 2: Disto, Delay, etc depending on preset.

    Next stage is getting one or two expression pedal and hook them up, and add a USB powered audio interface, and I'll have what I would want RK4 to be.

    Cheers
     
  10. thumky

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    Bad ass! I might just have hit you up if i go down this road. So far the FCB is doing its job but every now and then i wish i had more control. I'm a C/C++ programmer too...
     
  11. Roming22

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    I'd have no issue sharing the source code ;)