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Tape Recorder Emulation

Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by abluesky, Jun 28, 2018.

  1. abluesky

    abluesky New Member

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    Hi,

    I’m a big fan of using tape plugins and recently came across the videos of Hainbach:





    I would like to experiment with what he is does - recording into the tape machine and then playing back in halftime, and then sampling at that half time into a Sampler.

    I use Toneboosters Reelbus 4, which has a recorder mode, but ostensibly no actual recording feature (and I never expected it to).

    For sampling duties, I use mainly TAL Sampler and the Roland V-Synth. I also have Reason 10, but I haven’t really done a deep dive into its samplers. I also use Ableton as a Sampler. I know Reaktor has lots of samplers, but I’ve never used them.

    I’ve done some research, and can’t find a plugin which actually emulates how the recorder works - recording at a high fidelity speed, and then playing at a lower fidelity speed. A developer of a very good tape plugin said it will be difficult to do:

    “Plugins assume one sample in, one sample out.
    If you'd like half a sample out (in effect), there would be buffering issues at some point (half the audio needs to be buffered in memory indefinitely).”

    But I thinking that TAL Sampler does something similar with vintage samplers, resampling to change the pitch.

    So, I was thinking that I would like to try to develope such a tape recorder plugin in Reaktor. One that doesn’t just provide the saturation and Lo-fi effects, but also recording at one speed and then playback at another.

    I was wondering what anybody thinks about the feasibility of this idea? Any experts?

    Thank you for your patience reading this post.
     
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  2. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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  3. abluesky

    abluesky New Member

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    Thank you. This is a good start. Will look into this and see if I can create an ensemble that does what I’m imaging.
     
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  4. Mick @ NI

    Mick @ NI Banaholic NI Team

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  5. ZooTooK

    ZooTooK NI Product Owner

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    Maybe not a true tape emulation but I'm still pretty happy with the lo fi tape delay sound of my Base Echo ensemble.
     
  6. aboxclaude

    aboxclaude NI Product Owner

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    I went the other way... I start with a well-taken sample into Wavelab or Ableton, then drag the sample into a sampler I put together in Reaktor that basically destroys the quality of the sample in ways that are very 'emotive'. I can then re-sample in Reaktor itself and re-import the file to mangle it further. But that does not mean that I am lazy...

    I bought a few tape decks, a portable reel-to-reel and will also be working that way as well. I am trying to mod both the reel and the cassette deck to allow fast recording and slowing down by adding a pitch controller. Have no idea what will come of it...
     
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    Paule NI Product Owner

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    aboxclaude NI Product Owner

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