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The best latency configuration

Discussion in 'NI Audio Interfaces' started by Vincent a.k.a. The D.I.C.E., Jan 30, 2007.

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  1. Vincent a.k.a. The D.I.C.E.

    Vincent a.k.a. The D.I.C.E. NI Product Owner

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    For all users of the AK1 what works fine for you....Samplerate & latency per ms.

    Let me/us new users know, so we will know overall what the best settings are.

    I think that users of the AK1 can help eachother better than waiting on a reply of NI itself.

    Service after/before a purchase is a must.... good service is also a ewxtra for NI and their future Customers.

    But in general everyone who ownes a AK1 should be helpfull
     
  2. Kirk Smeaton

    Kirk Smeaton NI Product Owner

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    I've got mine set to "low latency (medium CPU usage situation)" with a 44100 Hz sample rate

    The different settings confuse the hell out of me - it seems to imply that the lower the latency the lower the CPU usage - I would have thought it was the other way round.

    Anway with that setting there is a noticeable slight lag between the sound in the headphones and what is playing out but the sound quality is good and I can live with it.
     
  3. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    4 ms is the equivalent of standing 3' farther away from your speaker; I think the lag you're hearing is mostly psychological.

    With Windows, the USB latency setting is the one that impacts sound quality the most in my opinion (Mac users can't set USB latency; it's predetermined). Too little can lead to severe glitching.

    It all depends on what I'm doing. If I'm just playing guitar through it, I use 1 ms USB/2 ms audio latency. If I'm using it with a lot of soft synths I'll kick it up to either 2 ms USB/4 ms audio or 3 ms USB/6 ms audio.

    ew
     
  4. junkimunki

    junkimunki Forum Member

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    I find 15 to 20 ms is pretty reasonable. The latency is the same for the main speaker output as the head phones so you shouldn't hear a delay at all between the 2.
     
  5. Vincent a.k.a. The D.I.C.E.

    Vincent a.k.a. The D.I.C.E. NI Product Owner

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    Guys thanks,

    I Figured it out by going into Control panel and select user defined there I manually set the buffer and latency and my problems are pretty much solved.

    I will try yours to to see what the differences are.
    By the way it pumps like a motha, the sound is you know what I mean.

    Through my Behringers Truth 2031A or over my AKG k171 studio headphones, the sound is good better yet then before
     
  6. handmadeandroid

    handmadeandroid New Member

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    Could anyone recommend latency settings for a macbook pro 2ghz core duo/ 1gb ram? thanks
     
  7. pereds

    pereds NI Product Owner

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    I have Dell PC 3 ghz (almost new)... The AK1 dont even manage to handle the lowest latency... i have 20 - 30 % PCU with 3 simple plugg ins... but the ****ing machine blink red every 30 to 60 seconds... I have tried almost all settings including the latest driver... but the **** will not work with my Cubase SX 2 or SX 3.

    I really hope someone can help me out...

    Best Regards
    Per Stockholm Sweden.
     
  8. Vincent a.k.a. The D.I.C.E.

    Vincent a.k.a. The D.I.C.E. NI Product Owner

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    I still have the same CPU problems,
    In reason 3.0 or cubase sx3 with or without rewiring it doesn't run smooth.
    how can it be that a high end card( that's what NI claims ) has so much problems.

    I bought my AK1 for latency and overall sound.
    but the latency no matter what samplerate 44>192 and latency settings I try or set , it still causes CPU overload.
    Is ther a remedy or did I bought an audio interface that's incomplete and don't works fine?
     
  9. ew

    ew Moderator Moderator

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    Have you tried a different USB port?
    What size is your power supply?
    Do you have chipset graphics or a separate card?

    ew
     
  10. Dj_Human

    Dj_Human New Member

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    Hi there!


    I currently work with a Creative Soundcard, which allows me to work at around 5 ms audio-latency. However, this only works with the "Creative Asio" driver, which only works at a samplerate of 48.0 kHz.

    Sometimes, however, I prefer working at 44.1 kHz.

    If I switch to another driver such as Asio DirectX Full Duplex Driver, I can work at 44.1 kHz, but with very high latencies (around 70 ms).

    I am about to buy NI Audio Kontrol 1 tomorrow, but only if you guys who have the personal experience can assure me that working with 44.1- as well as with 48.0- (and maybe even 96.0-?) kHz works with low latencies with this audio interface..

    btw; Vincent (The D.I.C.E.) and Pereds, were you able to solve your problems?


    Best wishes,
    Human
     
  11. cozmic

    cozmic New Member

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    I have the same problem with my newly bought AK1.

    IBM TP30, 2 gig ram, Mobile Radeon 7500 Chip and a Belkin USB PcCard interface with external power supply, XP Sp2, virusscanner disabled, no 3rd party software active.

    I have the newest driver an Firmware, changed the USB cable and the port. No other USB devices are connected. All power saving is switched off (BIOS and OS)

    I tested a song within Ableton, 2 tracks with Impulse drums and 4 tracks with div. 3rd party plugin instances. 24 Bit 48khz.

    With the builtin SoundMax chip of my notebook, combined with ASIO4All, I get 16ms latency and the cpu load ranges from 20% to 80%. Only some minor glitches in the sound when all tracks play in heavy polyphony(80%cpu). That´s o.k. because the cpu needs to do the work for that chip and that´s slows down things.

    With the AK1 I setup a 2ms/6ms config, for which Ableton calculated 11ms overall latency(?). The Cpu load here starts from 45(!)% and goes all up to 130%(!). What's this?

    This is a severe glitch for such an expensive interface!
    To me, this reads like a severe driver issue.

    Hey NI, that 5 quid internal card with ASIO4all just rocks the hell out of the AK1. That cannot be true!
    I just bought it, to get rid of latency and at least some cpu load. The opposite is what happens.
     
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