The competition - Akai

Yeah. I would have preferred the pads be on the right and the screen on the left.

 

23 Hours Ago: GEARSLUTZ

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"I think you cynics need to "Touch" it for yourselves and see how the new software works to understand the full weight of this particular product. The Touch is a better build than my Maschine Studio controller and the new MPC software is superior to Maschine as well. I'm a little disappointed that they haven't used the video they shot of us testing it out or at least teasers of the 3 other new products they let us play with. Looks like there's a marketing spoon feed taking place at Akai Professional. "

could be more beatings to come for NI

 

Unboxing vid already? Well if anything Akai learned something from NI. Don't talk about it, be about it. Normally they put out a prototype like a year before the product is supposed to be released and by the time the thing actually comes out the hype is gone. Also they upped their design game, that unit actually looks pretty slick and modern. Reminds me of Push a bit , very angular and flat.

I wonder if Akai will do something about the software. The look of the software clashes pretty badly with that new unit. A flatter darker UI similar to the Advanced's software would be cool.

 

The best thing about this Akai abobination is that it will make NI ass to move and announce mk3 and 2.5 soon.

 

Thats not a surprised... my mpd32 feels more solid then my Maschine Studio. I do still like the build quality of the studio... I just wish the encoder knobs were a bit more solid.

 

The encoders are my biggest gripe with Maschine Studio in-terms of hardware. Un-even feel and the caps slip off easily

 

Is it me or could they have just avoided the amount of money and research that went into this unit by making a better iMPC app and better controller than the fly and element.

The new chipset in the newer iPads are more than capable to handle the programs that are out now, still don't get why these companies keep making "lite" versions of their flagship programs, when apps like Beatmaker2 and Cubasis have proven that they can do anything a desktop based program can do.

Silly, really.

 

Sure are posting on here more than the mpcforums since you don't have maschine anymore. You had two maschine and couldn't do anything with them lol. Yeah and a little akai advance 25 and mpc studio with the non colored screens is better.

 

I don't feel like Akai destroyed anything. It's a nice idea, but it's not the game changer that you make it appear to be. If you were being sarcastic, then I just didn't get it. It's ok, but that's about it. I've been making beats for a very long time, and I've never needed a touchscreen to do it, and I don't think a touchscreen would have made anything "better". When I'm making beats, personally, I like having buttons, knobs, faders, and pads.

 

on the contrary I think it was the best decision they could make. Retronyms put together the impc pro software and from the start they did a terrible job. The best thing akai could do is take over the impc pro and let the people coding for the touch do the impc pro as well. when the impc pro came out you couldn't delete samples, you couldn't create custom folders, even now it does not work with core audio, doesn't work with any sound cards, and I could go on there are many troubles with that software although it looks good on the surface and there are some good ideas there. The worst thing about it's whole development is that retronyms is combative, it's not like they are doing their best work, they make maschines development look like it's the way things should be. the last thing i would want is to have them anywhere near any of the other products akai are coming out with and I guarantee you if they are involved allot of people will stay away based on that alone.

 

Honestly I will keep my maschine.

 

...not good. I was busy the whole day handing out blankets and providing warm soup. So much despair and hopelessness. It's heart-breaking when you look into their dead eyes, knowing you can't do anything that will give them comfort. I really don't know what to do. If anyone of you guys feels depressed or worse please call this toll-free hotline 800-WHO-GIVES-A-F*CK-THIS-THING-HAS-BEEN-OUT-FOR-JUST-A-DAY.

There are so many things that are really bad with Maschine, I agree, but I don't think that this touch thingie will blow it out of the water. Quite a lot of laptops already have touch screens and soon all of them will have one. So it's already kind of redundant and my excitement over that is quite limited. Would have been different if it had been a standalone machine...

 

Akai has destroyed who... because a touch screen. Relax there, Akai needed to do this.

 

people don't get it, akai is working for native instruments, basically akai is in charge of answering the maschine feature request forum, and also they create the environment that is conducive for ni to develop more, just like daniel haver said in that video, they respond to what the competition does . everything is working as should be.

 

and loachm, whats good with them breaks......

 

MPC Ren's marketing debut just before Namm 2012. It went on sale Aug 2012. Not any different than most products that make their debut at Namm. Check You Tube...
Not a debate. Just clarifying...

 

...Judging by the various forum comments, the consensus does seem to be that people wish it was standalone. In any case, they have a few more products to announce. At my local store, Maschine is now selling for over $1300 CAN (!). The S-Series 25 key was on special at least, but it's more suited for someone wanting to sketch ideas on the road (imo). I think all this gear lust, gear envy, and gear denial is just a symptom of a bigger problem: a) our frustration with the lack of dev in an eco system we've heavily invested in (Maschine), and b) our frustration with the creative process in general. Too many options are sometimes worse than not enough. Constraints have been proven to be a key element in successful creation. It seems counter intuitive, and more so when the universe of sound is now readily available as bits and bytes, and hardware controllers are sprouting up like daisies. Of course, it's normal to be curious about the competition or new releases. I remember how exciting it was to try to guess what was coming pre-release for the S-Series, and then to decipher what it could (and couldn't) actually do.

 

Which is actually a joke. The last flagship hardware MPCs cost $2000-$2500 and were not flying off the shelves. In fact, in these very same forums the consensus were that they were too expensive, people could invest in a powerful computer w/software that can do more, etc.
Most of the guys still using hardware MPCs bought them 2nd hand for a fraction of the price. Don't be fooled....

 

Agreed...I think it's a lot to do with perception, and wanting more badly what we can't have at the moment. The grass is always greener on the other side, and I think there's a kind of nostalgia setting in for anything not tied to the computer, even if it's more of a whim than an actual desire or need. Everyone's saying they'd buy it in a heartbeat if it was standalone. That doesn't mean they actually would. But it certainly would cater to some people who've made up their minds that that's the way forward for them. But had it been standalone, we'd probably see loads of moaning and bitching about it's limited upgradeability, or feature set, or...(fill in the blank)...heck, at least Akai is trying. And like someone mentioned, competition stepping up the game is good for us, as N.I. will have to follow suite.

 

I just think people in general are getting lazy and very self centered. I think it shows in how we approach everything on a day to day basis, including music creation. Modern technology has spoiled us, the average person knows just enough to know what is possible if not the specifics behind it or the work involved. Just an observation, now, GET OFF MY LAWN! hahahahaha just showing my age I guess.