The competition - mpc 1.8

yep I said the same thing because it was true then and it's true now, look you don't know anything about midi sequencing so i don't begrudge you, just like you don't know anything about sampling so you have about as much use for the sampler in your $1000 piece of gear as i do it's subpar sequencer. I know you've read every single word I've ever written on this forum probably while picking up granola bars for Daniel Haver from the whole foods market so you know that I champion Maschines sound design prowess whenever the opportunity arises because it's simply a beast when it comes to sound design but even right now, during our conversation somewhere else in the world, off the side of some wayward road, in the back room of some dusty old nondescript building….. the mpc-500 sequencer is kicking the maschines sequencer's butt all through midi land.

 

Yawn

 

Right! You should share a song you made with maschine. What kind of music do you produce?

 

I produce r&b, not the good kind, the wack stuff …. what's it to ya, you got any tips on how to make my **** wacker?
If so post 'em up, but do it in another thread cause this thread is for the akai 1.8 info.

 

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Any fullsongs? Soundcloud?

 

from what I can tell it looks like most people are not sure what the 1.8.1 update addressed, do any of you guys know what bugs it fixed?

 

From what I've read, it didn't address the problems users are experiencing

 

Menu diving. Maschine can display its Mixer, Sound parameters, and Sequencer grid all at once on your computer monitor in a way the MPC Software can’t. The MPC only provides two options as it has a Upper View (primarily for Sequencer Grid) and a Lower View which is specific to the Mode you are in.

Other than that, you must menu dive in Maschine as much as you do with the MPC. Additionally, since Maschine has only 8 knobs to correspond with parameters on its LCDs, you have to tab through pages in way that you don’t have to on an MPC Ren.

There are both pros and cons the way Maschine and the MPC operates. I don’t really see any model having a clear advantage over the other in this regard.

NDC. The MPC implementation of NDC is really fast. I really can’t think of a way to make it faster. The fact that it has more options than Maschine make it seem difficult to first time users. One you understand how it works you will realize that it is equal to or faster than Maschine.

Tuning/Pitch. This is done in the same place as every MPC every created. You press the [Prog Edit] on the MPC hardware. You strike a Pad then turn the appropriate Qlink to adjust Tuning/Pitch. You can also assign Tuning to the Qlinks in Main Mode. This parameter can also be recorded as Automation.

I think it is really silly to debate the minor differences that exist between the implementation of the same features. It would be stupid if NI or Akai attempt to add the same features in the same manner. No manufacturer does this. Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, etc have numerous features that are the same but implemented differently. Use what works best for you.

In closing…..I prefer the MPC hardware workflow exactly as it is now. There is no need to make it more like Maschine, Push, etc. And MPC should perform like an MPC.

 

you know I agree with you up until the end...
I think akai and every developer known to mankind should bite maschine's resampling features as hard as humanly possible
I don't know how anyone could improve on Native Instruments method of resampling, it's just too delicious and as far as I am concerned it is the defacto standard. Frankly I can't even believe the same people who mad the feature in maschine are the same folks who made the sequencer in maschine woahh I shudder to think!

 

NI has the better development team. they work fast.

 

Are you referring to Maschine's method of Sync Recording...where it will allow you to Resample your Sequence in a perfect 2 bar loop?

 

it's a little more flexible than that but yes, when resampling heavy amounts it's such a time saver

 

pretty please are you about to tell me that it's on the way with aka, or that the akai can do it?

 

I can't say for sure when or if that will happen with the MPC. They would only need to allow the Looper to Resample as it already works in Sync with the Sequencer but for External Audio only.

Personally, I prefer something different which would accomplish the same thing. I would prefer a Track Freeze function which could render a VST track to an Audio Track. Or it could render a VST track to a Sample and assign it to a Pad.

I would like to see this on the Main Sequencer view as opposed to entering a Recording Mode or Page.

 

Due to how inefficient Maschine has gotten a track freeze would be cool. I never really thought so when 2.0 came out but then 2.2 came out and I was like damnit it I need it. My machine is a beast so I've never even run into an issue of not being able to run multiple instances of plugins at fairly low buffers until 2.2. And I use a lot of effects plugins for the most part. Even Ableton whic is a bit of a dog has no issue on my machine.

 

Are you suggesting that track freeze should be implemented simply because Maschines developers are adding CPU overhead for no reason whatsoever ?
Surely it makes more sense for them to optomize their releases insrtead

 

Not all. I'm just saying that it would be nice to have. I mean even before 2.2 came it wasn't like Maschine performed all that well. Maschine has always s been pretty bad compared to other software out there. If it hadn't been optimized by now I don't think it will happen.

 

I thought maschine is pretty well optimised minus the last 2.2.3 release. For track freeze, that's why you bounce the audio.

 

Hey this ignore thing works awesome.