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The Disappearing Downbeat

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by Harshness, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. Harshness

    Harshness Forum Member

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    Has anyone posted the 2.0.2 bug that causes the first note in a sequence to disappear when you are overdubbing at the end of the sequence?
     
  2. robertge

    robertge NI Product Owner

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    Yes! And not just for overdubbing. This is another reason I can't use version 2 yet.
     
  3. Harshness

    Harshness Forum Member

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    Good, I hope this is corrected soon. Do not know how this was missed! It's a real nuisance to have to add that first note back in each time.
     
  4. puzzlefactory

    puzzlefactory NI Product Owner

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    You should report it as a bug to NI support.
     
  5. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Can you provide clear and precise reproduction steps?

    Also, which controller? Which OS?
     
  6. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    yes that is what we need.

    none of the posters above explain what they were recording - was it a kit, a synth?

    also what systems Mac or PC.

    sorry, but we need more information.

    sowari
     
  7. robertge

    robertge NI Product Owner

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    I was just playing back a factory group with maschine running as a plugin and it would skip the first downbeat every time, that's all..
     
  8. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Which group? Playing back the factory patterns? Which pattern? Does it happen for every factory group?

    Running as a plugin in which DAW? Which OS?
     
  9. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    spot on! thanks Mr36 ;)

    sorry, robertge but you - and the other posters - need to be more specific.

    sowari
     
  10. robertge

    robertge NI Product Owner

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    Nah, I'll pass. I don't use 2.0 anyway, there are too many problems with it. If they fix some things I'll give it another shot and would not hesitate to explain any issues just as I have done before.
     
  11. piggy915

    piggy915 New Member

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    Hi Harshness,

    My MS is just 4 hours old and don't know if my issue is the same as yours.

    I have Cubase 7.06 and Studio one 2.6 and when I want to record a very simple 4 x 4 kicks....... The first note will never record. It happened in my previous mentioned DAW.

    But standalone application didn't has such thing..

    Cheers!
    Piggy915
     
  12. piggy915

    piggy915 New Member

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    ooops double post!
     
  13. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Nice community spirit... People might think twice before discussing your issues with you next time. In the time it took to type what you typed, you could have given a quick explanation. And actually helped to fix some of the things that are buggy in 2.0.
     
  14. robertge

    robertge NI Product Owner

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    Yeah? I think I've gone out of my way already with posts like these:

    http://www.native-instruments.com/f...-timeline-sync-workflow&p=1235290#post1235290

    Of course those kinds of posts almost are not even worth making since they get buried so fast 10+ pages into the forum because it's so active.

    You're almost implying that I owe the community something.

    I am here to air my frustrations and shortcomings with this product in hopes that one day it can get "all the way there" - and sometimes I can, and have helped people as part of that process. That's all.
     
  15. puzzlefactory

    puzzlefactory NI Product Owner

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    The thing is, nobody here can solve bugs. The only ones who can do that are the developers. So the best thing to do when you find something is to report it to NI support.
     
  16. robertge

    robertge NI Product Owner

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    I'll probably expand on it more tomorrow when I have more time; from recollection I wasn't doing anything special except playing a group with maschine running as an AU in logic.
     
  17. Falls A Star

    Falls A Star Forum Member

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    I encountered it a couple of times, and from what I recall:

    -- one of the factory kits. Kick on 1, 2, 3, 4, snare on 2 and 4 -- that works. Add hats on 8ths, suddenly the kick on 1 doesn't play.

    I don't recall any other details, and I never noticed it happening on non-factory kits. It could be a weird choke group or polyphony issue, maybe?
     
  18. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    And so did I when I was the only person to reply to you at length several times to discuss your issues...

    Almost, but not at all really. I was just surprised at the attitude, as you had previously contributed and helped in this forum community and just flat out saying that you wouldn't type a few sentences to describe when and how you came across this issue was not expected. Especially when you could have just said nothing at all and no-one would have thought anything about you not providing reproduction steps.

    Anyway, whatever. I see that you might contribute tomorrow if you have time, which is cool and will be very much appreciated.



    While there is some truth in what you say, NI developers and employees read these forums and a discussion with several accounts of the same bug can be very useful in reproducing and finding the problem. Also, there are undoubtedly some forum members who are beta testers and may have more direct lines of communication with NI. Any discussion about the issues and its details can be helpful.



    And thanks, Mr Star. I'll try this out later to see if I can reproduce too.
     
  19. Harshness

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    Using Maschine Studio, stand alone in 10.8.4

    Recording a drum 2 bar kick pattern--no problem.

    Begin overdubbing more kicks in the pattern and the first downbeat will disappear if you allow the sequence to cycle while adding new notes.
     
  20. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    sorry but what has that post got to do with this thread :confused:

    if no one is prepared to actually describe a proper scenario where you get the missing downbeat then how are we meant to be able to reproduce it.

    sowari