The NKS Standard and Users

Thanks evildragon, but this mean i can not make a template for mapping a third party soundbank like every other synth. If i map a preset, save with kk or maschine and open the next preset via massive browser, the mapping i made is destroyed for the next preset. Right?
So i have to map every single ni preset?
In other synths, i map and save a preset as nks, go to the next via synth browser and the mapping is identical like the first.

 

Yes, you need to do that preset by preset.

 

Thänx again EvilDragon, what a horrible ****

 

Yeah this is the issue with synths that can change their controls/mappings from one preset to another.

For instance I did Keyscape which has a different parameter setup for every preset. I actually ended up doing most of it by hand and using a script just to read and label the controls, I had to map every page and assign the controls by hand. That's why I steer clear of modular synths.

 

+1000
We need an user SDK.

 

There are synths which can lock parameters and assignments. U-he for example. I would not be able to browse presets on my LinnStrument if I would have to set the pitch bend range again for each preset.
I think the solution would be something much more universal than NKS. I would not expect NI to do it, they simply hope that an alternative will need some more years to show up. Maybe Bitwig is willing to take the torch...
Anybody here to found a startup?...;-)

 

+∞

 

Absolutely 1000x UP! Fighting over standards on the market makes always the user loser.
I would be happy for some sound mapping / plugin mapping hierarchy setting in the software for proper user support even if it's not SDK.

 

+1

 

I cannot disagree with Jester.

 

Yes’ it’s quite frustrating to have such a powerful tool but only actually useful for factory patches :-/

 

Where are you guys at NI? This is so disrespectful to customers and end users, how about a comment by now?

 

^this

Why couldn't NI do it though?

Someone or some group of companies need to step up and provide a universal open format for presets much like MIDI sets a standard for communication, or to give a more recent example perhaps like Ableton link seems to be doing for sync issues.

I'm not a Komplete Kontrol user (I have an Akai Advance) but as things seem to be headed right now it seems like I'm supposed to have to get a Komplete Kontrol keyboard in order to make the best use of Komplete, an Arturia keyboard to make the best use of their V collection, a Roland System-8 to make the best use of their plug-outs, etc.

I'm not going to get all of those keyboards though, and people seem to be more and more turning back to using just hardware, perhaps in part because of things like this which make what should be a best-of-both-worlds tight integration between hardware and software more like a big mess.

As Native Instruments is in a central position in this software meets hardware world of interfacing and is presently regrouping with a big investment aimed toward restructuring their product line it seems like they should be in a good position to offer something like this. Maybe they should be talking to Akai and Roland, etc. and they can all come up with something that will solve these issues. Maybe all it would take is for them to open up NKS as a free and open source standard and everyone would jump on board, as seems to be happening with Ableton Link. I don't see why a universal standard couldn't be backwards compatible with all of the current gear either, since we're just talking about software compatibility here, right? I'm not a programmer though, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a few software and firmware updates could potentially take care of any issues in this regard.

Fingers crossed.

+1

 

I have only recently bought a mk1 s61, there's a lot I like about it.

I also splashed out on Arturia v6 and was happy that is NKS compatible.

However, I've also bought a few sound banks/patches from Arturia and it's very annoying for these not to show up when using the browse feature on the S61.

If I maximize the individual synth in Komplete Kontrol, the patches are there in the synths browser window, but it's really annoying not being able to access them using browse on the S61.

Reading this thread I presume there's no easy way?

 

Most of them are pretty small banks, shouldn’t take long to add yourself (or nag Arturia to do the job?)

 

+1

I just want to be able to fix bank and sub-bank names properly for my kontakt instruments. The best one can do is set the Author and Product fields (thanks to the very helpful instructions of b-righteous here: https://www.native-instruments.com/...d-party-ni-presets-to-kk.227632/#post-1317238) but NOT the sub-bank.

Even if you save each preset one at a time, setup the automation for KK, you still can't browse your instruments easily and it becomes a giant waste of time in the first place. Never mind the time it takes to tag or create previews (if it's possible).

EDIT:
And also would love to be able to get rid of all the purple lit light guide keys that should be set to off. If this sounds familiar, you know what I'm talking about. I wrote a script to turn off the accidentals dynamically, but some kontakt instruments don't even have a script slot open to use it.

 

I tried asking Arturia

 

When an official partner not giving a flying fu*k about this preset based nonsense... Wake up call NI!

 

Who's your daddy? You can't be my boo if you don't know the answer. Come on NI get wit the program ... please! Open up the standard and drop it like it's hot!
++1

 

+1 - please open NKS developer kit to everyone