There's really no keylock on the sampler decks?

Discussion in 'Feature Suggestions' started by gmint, Nov 4, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. gmint

    gmint NI Product Owner

    Messages:
    1,795
    I thought I was doing something wrong until I read through the manual and found this:

    Section 11.2 - Sample Deck Quick Reference

    "KEYLOCK indicator: Not used (no Keylock on Sample Decks)."

    OMG. SERIOUSLY?

    Please, please tell me there are some plans to change this. I'm literally stunned at this point.
     
  2. Fraa

    Fraa Forum Member

    Messages:
    253
    Yep, I saw it too. Kept looking in the settings and stuff, but couldn't find it either :)
     
  3. gmint

    gmint NI Product Owner

    Messages:
    1,795
    This is REALLY, REALLY disappointing. IMHO, it pretty much makes the sampler decks worthless if you play in key. No, I take that back. It pretty much makes the sampler decks worthless PERIOD.

    I'm just stunned. I really am. What a terrible decision NI.
     
  4. Fraa

    Fraa Forum Member

    Messages:
    253
    Well, it's not that I have many problems with it. My track decks are keylocked and when I make a loop or something it's not a big problem. Only thing is when you pitchbend on it, you'll hear it compared a keylocked deck ofcourse.

    But yeah, they should've implemented the keylock feature on the sampler decks.
     
  5. haze324

    haze324 Forum Member

    Messages:
    262
    workaround = record the loop keylocked at the bpm you need in a regular deck and save it?
     
  6. Fraa

    Fraa Forum Member

    Messages:
    253
    Jup, that's what I do. But like I said, you'll still notice the problem when you'll pitchbend the loop on the sample decks and it's already "On Air".
     
  7. archades

    archades Forum Member

    Messages:
    37
    I don't think this is an issue to freak out about yet. The samplers are a brand new feature and I can see how NI would want to roll out things piece by piece to make sure that they are solid and bug free.
     
  8. silversx

    silversx Forum Member

    Messages:
    56
    i really hope this is #1 on their list to add
     
  9. DjStrategy

    DjStrategy NI Product Owner

    Messages:
    1,064
    +1
     
  10. Bramble

    Bramble Forum Member

    Messages:
    389
    Keylock is like mastertempo on a CDJ?
     
  11. jeroentje2

    jeroentje2 Forum Member

    Messages:
    34
    Played one night with the s4 and this was the first thing I missed
     
  12. Count Zero

    Count Zero ModerAUtor Moderator

    Messages:
    6,587
    Yes it is the same thing only with a better name.
     
  13. Bramble

    Bramble Forum Member

    Messages:
    389
    That's personal. I like mastertempo better. :D
     
  14. Count Zero

    Count Zero ModerAUtor Moderator

    Messages:
    6,587
    Except that the function has nothing to do with tempo. You are try to keep the pitch or key of the music the same. Hence keylock or pitchlock are better names. However it's not something I would get upset about so if mastertempo works for you then go for it. :)
     
  15. Bramble

    Bramble Forum Member

    Messages:
    389
    Yeah I get you. Always used it on my CDJ's though. It's a good method to hide pitch bend corrections.
     
  16. Count Zero

    Count Zero ModerAUtor Moderator

    Messages:
    6,587
    +1 I'm hearing ya.
     
  17. DJ Freshfluke

    DJ Freshfluke Traktor Mod Moderator

    Messages:
    26,751
    you'll be never happy with anything, right?

    think twice about it and reduce it to one word: performance.

    it's not like NI didnt think about it or didnt want it to happen.
     
  18. photojojo

    photojojo Forum Member

    Messages:
    719
    Key locking the sample decks would be the same as key locking 10 regular decks if you count the two track decks that are key locked as well. I can understand why they didn't implement it, but having it would be nice. Hopefully they can figure something out.
     
  19. silversx

    silversx Forum Member

    Messages:
    56
    i understand this may be a performance issue.. however.. if you record a 4 beat sample from your keylocked deck A.. shouldn't the sample be the same key as when recorded?

    now lets say you play this same track next time at a different tempo and want to use the same recorded sample.. this sample is now off key to the track..

    how can this problem be solved
     
  20. lethal_pizzle

    lethal_pizzle NI Product Owner

    Messages:
    10,600
    You'd have to load the sample into a regular deck and resample it.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.