this will make kontakt to the ultimate waepon!

-possibilty to modulate the 6 midi knobs in the scripting section with lfos and envelopes

-macro knobs on the front, to which you can route multiple parameters inside the editing view without scripting(scripting is a longer way and for every single control workflow destroying)>>>steinberg halion shows you how it can work

-internal synth module, which youb can turn on or off, to combine classic synth sounds with your samples inside Kontakt!(Halion has this nice feature too)
as example you can stack your violin ensemble with a synth pad which can make it richer

-a function solved the following way: right click on any control in the editing view and a option named "display on the front" to choose>>>because scripting would be a longer way

-chancing the Zone ranges and Drag&Drop Samples into the List View

-modulating samples with eachother: FM, sync, ring mod on the synth module

-some more internal effects for sound sculpting like a tunable resonator, scratching effect, grain delay and a frequency shifter



And REALLY important for EVERY musician:

-a synced trigger delay combined with the volume envelope, nice for strums as example!

 

***Update***

-Also a very useful feature would be a preview listening function on the instrument level.

how to solve this?

>>>just playback of the c3 sample first higher velocity than the lower level a.s.o. but you should be able to chance the preview playback behaviour in the proberties.


-furthermore you cannot modulate the pitch of a group within the full range, just with the special pitch curve, but with the lfos the modulation is just within a very little range>>>please the possiblity of a full range modulation!

-a curve knob also for the decay and release of the envelope

 

Use flexible envelope for this. That's why it's there.

Kontakt is not and never will be Halion. NI has Komplete synths for their "synth engines", and I am pretty sure they won't merge anything with Kontakt. In fact, they had it before, and it was called Kore.

Use Halion for what it is, use Kontakt for what it is.

 

flexible envelopes are not automatible and if using long enevelopes, the zoom is not chancable which causes a back and forward scrolling.

both are samplers(sample player stricly speaking), both are made for the same issue, to playback samples on keyboard zones. features are not forbidden, the oscillator section is a feature, which is not common in samplers but helpful. ok, maybe not as necessary as many other points I mentioned. So please dont discuss it because the focus should be on the important things like:


-chancing the Zone ranges and Drag&Drop Samples into the List View

-a (synced) trigger delay combined with the volume envelope, nice for strums as example!

-a function solved the following way: right click on any control in the editing view and a option named "display on the front" to choose>>>because scripting would be a longer way

-macro knobs on the front, to which you can route multiple parameters

-some more internal effects for sound sculpting like a tunable resonator, scratching effect, grain delay and a frequency shifter


-Also a very useful feature would be a preview listening function on the instrument level.
how to solve this?
>>>just playback of the c3 sample first higher velocity than the lower level a.s.o. but you should be able to chance the preview playback behaviour in the proberties.

-furthermore you cannot modulate the pitch of a group within the full range, just with the special pitch curve, but with the lfos the modulation is just within a very little range>>>please the possiblity of a full range modulation!

-a curve knob also for the decay and release of the envelope


Are you satisfied now, Evil Dragon?

 

Not true, you can zoom out to full envelope length (no matter how long it is) by double-clicking the time ruler of flexible envelope. You can also assign external modulators for first 8 envelope segments, which makes segment times VERY automatable.
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No biggie, yes it is a feature, and no I am not discussing it. I am just telling you that you shouldn't hope for this to happen because NI has other products that fill the "synth" niche. Kontakt is not going in that direction.

 

could you comment my other suggestions too?
do you like some of my suggestions? Somebody else a comment?

 

I can definitely agree with more different and cool and weird effects, and (my personal pet peeve) fixing the 3x2 filter with a newer and more powerful version of it.

Macro knobs would be nice but IMHO not a necessity.

Regarding pitch modulation - you can use "Existing" option when adding a modulator, to add another instance of the same modulator modulating pitch... this way you can extend the range by another octave (or more octaves, if you will). In case of scripting, it's possible to use knob range outside (0,1000000) range to get more than 12 semitones of pitch modulation range via single modulator destination slider.


I'm not using List view, honestly, everything I do is based in the regular view, so I can't really say yes or no to that suggestion, but it seems useful.

 

thank you evildragon for your comments.

Yes, it would increase the fun for sounddesigners (and everybody else)

Because I use many instruments, it would be nice to have a fast access and assigning to macro knobs. It is a workflow thing. Because opening the edit page every time can be annoying, especially with many instruments to switch.

Yes this is the way I do it but changing the parameters of one modulator, dont change the parameters of the others.... with macro knobs it would be possible...

 

I really have to repeat once again that it's not chanCe, it's chanGe in the context you're using that word. Sheesh.

Here's a solution for you: http://www.mediafire.com/download/9upawv240hfv286/Modulation_Amount_Extension.nki

 

Macro Knobs

I can see the advantage of having Macro Knobs - and having work-flow consistency.

I like to know that the physical controls on my Akai MPK's, or the Quick Controls I use in Cubase - control the same parameters across all instrument libraries.
E.G. cc16 is going to adjust 'attack time' on all of my instruments.

A work-around I've been using for a while
For my own libraries - and older converted libraries -
[ I believe EvilDragon scripted this ]
is Hollow Sun's GUI Shell

http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/gui_shell/

Very useful

 

Furthermore I miss a vertical and horizontal zoom into the multienvelope like FM8 has it as example. Especially when I make complex envelopes or try to find the right punch of a sound.

 

There is at least horizontal zoom - click on the timeline ruler below then drag up/down. Double-click to zoom to whole envelope.

 

EvilDragon knows it all, thank you! .)

 

Macro knobs would be great for older libraries.

being able to easily expose some simple controls like group volume etc in performance view would be very cool indeed.

 

Because this is something like a conclution of the feature wishes and gaps which must be filled:


Here are the other additional stuff of the other threads:
-modulation of busses, mixer inserts and faders, inserts and sends.
-option for saving the destructive editing with the host project
-pitch detection and correction

 

1.I can't zoom in or out within the flexible envelope like in FM8 as example. I just can jump to an overview.

2.pitch modulation is very limited: If I use the bipolar envelope, I cant start by zero, as example to pitch down just at the end. A lfo with fade-in has not enough control and as mentioned no full range modulation possible.

3.but a modulation possibility of mixer effects and insert, bus and send effects, global volume envelopes for different instruments at once is missing.

4.no assignable macro controls available

5.no syncable trigger delay for zones and whole groups

6.no auto pitch detection and correction

7.no real sampling feature on the fly

8.destructive sample editing is not saved with the host project if wanted

9.synth engine and crossmodulation

10.please: more effects for internal sound design, some of the guitars rig effects and spectral delay, vocoder, granular with stop function to process in different speeds forward and backward, a pitch shifter, a frequency shifter, a de-esser, a grain cloud processor and more like some reaktor stuff!

 

1. You can. Right mouse click and drag left-right on the timeline.


10. Heh... they might as well stop selling Guitar Rig then. Some effects would be welcome, but I'm very doubtful they'll include ALL of them. No, that very likely won't happen.

 

1.MODULATION:
But in general many modulation options are missing like effect parameters of mixer, insert and send slots. Also a fuill range pitch modulation with all kind of modulators and a possibility to start with zero with modulation to modulate as example just the release phase of the pitch.

2.MORE EFFECTS and more Grain parameters:
I missing many special effects for sound design like a resonator, pitch delay, grain delay, grain cloud a.s.o.
And a backward and position knob for granular mode is missing

3.SYNCABLE(also triads) TRIGGER DELAY: to trigger a sound later as the other sounds in the instruments as example for strums or rolls and other articulations

4.AUTO PITCH DETECTION AND CORRECTION: to create a instrument more efficient, also a real time sampling feature for this purpose

5.DESTRUCTIVE EDITING SAVED WITH HOST PROJECT: now it asked me everytime I save every single sample where I want to save, annoying!

 

Ohh man I would love macro knobs - with different curves for every target
Then I would use kontakt more often definetly, cause it's really powerful

Uwe

 

What NIMichi proposes is somehow like a fusion of Kontakt and Reaktor. Such a "hybrid product" would be very senseful and could also simplify the future software developement because there would be only one project to maintain.

But I don't believe that the codebase of Kontakt and Reaktor can be merged easiliy into something new.