Solved Thrill not recording XY Automation in Pro Tools

Just bought Thrill. I use Pro Tools. When I record the track, I hold down a key on the keyboard and move the XY in the plugin with my mouse. Unfortunately it doesn't record my XY movements. I checked the manual but can't seem to figure out how to do this. Obviously the whole point of the plugin is the XY automation. What am I missing?

Thanks for any help you may provide!

 

Hmmm, it works here in Reaper... The first two reported automation parameters are X and Y axis of the pad...

 

Well, pro tools is pretty terrible with automation vs other DAW's. But it should be possible to work. Anyone using Pro Tools experience this? Have you heard of this before?

Also, thanks for responding right away!

 

If there's an option to create automation envelopes directly for any tweaked parameters in PT, you should use it. I would think if you set the automation to Write mode, those envelopes should be created straight away...

 

Just figured it out. It's a multi step process where you create multiple automation lanes for the XY axis then put them in record. I've used Pro Tools and Kontakt for a long time and have never encountered a plugin that functions like this. Thanks for your help!!!

 

I'm sure there's an easier way to do it, definitely. There must be. In Reaper I just put the track in Write mode and move the XY pad, envelopes are automatically generated. I don't think PT is devoid of such facilities.

 

You would certainly think so, but Pro Tools is not the greatest with that. It wouldn't surprise me if there isn't an easier way. Also, when I asked NI they just said to read the manual and go to the forum. Even though I told them that I had already read the manual. Pretty lame customer support. Recently I was having problems with Serum and I emailed them and Steve Duda actually wrote me right back. Oh well... corporate America. Thanks again for your help! If you do discover a simpler way, feel free to post that. Take care!

 

Hey Keith, I have the same problem. Could you detail your solution please? Thanks

 

First assign the X and Y Parameters to use automation in the plugin window (Pic 1)

Then create two automation lanes for X and Y by hitting that little arrow for automation and then the plus sign for another lane.

Make sure you put the automation to write

And make sure plugin automation is red and active in the plugin automation window

(Pic 2 shows all of this)

Way too much effort is needed but it does work. Hope it helps!

 

Again, I'm absolutely positive there is a simpler way to achieve that even in PT - even if I don't use it at all. When automation is in Write mode (or something), it should be able to just create automation lanes for all plugin parameters that get moved... Perhaps there is a setting somewhere that enables that behavior? I'm sure a more knowledgeable person than me regarding PT would know about that.


EDIT: A couple of friends of mine mentioned that if you Ctrl+Cmd+click the parameter you want to automate, it will open automation lane for it magically. On Windows, it's Ctrl+Alt+Win+click the parameter.

So it really seems you don't have to go digging though menus for that, and that there IS a faster way to do what you want.

 

I know that shortcut, and it works for a lot of plugins, but not this one. This seems to be some weird Pro Tools bug, and unfortunately the extremely lame people at NI won't attempt to solve it. I do, however, appreciate your help

 

Might be a specific thing with the XY pad. Does it work with other knobs on the interface? I would think that it'd work with any parameter that is linked to one of 512 automation slots Kontakt has.

If it's a PT bug, though, NI has nothing to do with it, and it's the extremely lame people at Avid not doing anything about it

 

Thanks , will try this asap and give you an update...

 

Well ... nope... not working.
Pro Tools version 12.7
Kontakt latest version
Automation assigned in plug in for axis X and Y
Same controller numbers assigned both in PT and Thrill
Hence automation lanes created..
Tried write, latch, touch, dancing on one foot, etc...
No success

What am I missing...?

 

... I was missing the fact that you have to be on an instrument track and not from a midi track to an instrument track. Got it. Thanks Keith for your help.

 

Are there any other solutions to this?

I have Pro Tools 12.4. Latest version of Kontakt andThrill. Am unable to update to any newer version of Pro Tools since I don't have the subscription plan anymore.

I did everything Keith suggested and when I write animation the X and Y both create an identical slope. So for instance if I write it to go slow up along the left side and then quickly sweep across to the right at the last minute, when I play it back, it does a long slow glide from bottom left to upper right no matter what variations I try to write as a movement in the x y grid. Any suggestions?

 

Same problem in Logic, thanks to your conversation solved as well. Thank you a lot!