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TraCoMerger – Combine Traktor collections, Transfer metadata between TDJ and Traktor Pro

Dieses Thema im Forum "TRAKTOR DJ (for iPhone and iPad)" wurde erstellt von Kalo, 16. Juni 2015.

  1. Airbees

    Airbees New Member

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    I use iPad for playing, iPhone is only backup :) and I know about updates. iPad working at now on iOS 11.4.1. TDJ app is latest. I tested few things and still not working as you write. But one thing is fixed and I find other way.

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    Restoring Traktor DJ folder on iCloud
    1) delete TDJ data in iCloud on iOS
    2) turn OFF sync TDJ data with iCloud
    3) turn ON sync TDJ data with iCloud
    4) start TDJ app, load track and place any cue point (this make changes in collection file)
    5) exit and kill (home button double click and swipe) TDJ app
    6) turn ON sync TDJ data with iCloud
    7) now is in iCloud restored TDJ folder with collection
    But this folder is still visible only on iOS.

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    This is solution how move and do visible collection file on iCloud:
    1) download Cloud opener app from iOS appstore (maybe worked with any similar app)
    2) open Cloud opener app and find Traktor DJ folder on iCloud
    3) copy this folder and paste it on to Cloud opener folder
    4) go to iCloud any way (Mac Finder/ iOS/ web...) and download colletion file from Cloud opener/Traktor DJ folder

    At now I don't know if worked corectly repeat way.
     
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  2. Kalo

    Kalo Active Member

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    First if all .. congratulation :thumbsup::) .. coming to iPad: it seems a common bug anywhere between TDJ and iCloud that the Traktor Folder gets sometimes hidden. Good that your workflow above solved the issue ...

    Btw, what i also learned: NI seems to have missed one important thing: do NOT expect that a new TDJ install restores metadata from iCloud !. It does NOT, totally stupid IMHO, iCloud seems only to be used to sync between different devices (and to deliver input for my Merger lol). TDJ keeps metadata only as long it is installed ! So never (!) deinstall and reinstall TDJ in hope it would fix the folder issue, and in hope the iCloud date get loaded .... in real: all hotcues will be lost forever (and collection on iCloud will be erased in background too!). I did this mistake once :mad: .. until i found a simple way:

    Easy way how i solved in case any folder gets hidden: goto iOS settings, disable there iCloud at all (make a manual backup first). Then enable again and your done .. All folder appear again :) ...no need to touch TDJ, no risk to loose metadata, and even much simpler. https://www.native-instruments.com/...er-in-icloud-disappeared-how-to-solve.323902/

    But again .. all your problems seems solved already, right ? .. so be happy :thumbsup::)
     
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  3. Airbees

    Airbees New Member

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    I don't mean uninstall with kill I mean home button double click and swipe app. :) I have edit this in my previous post. But thanx for other way how to retrieve TDJ folder and information about uninstalling, this is bad idea.
     
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  4. Kalo

    Kalo Active Member

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    Hi TDJ friends,

    as i got this question several times from several TraCo user in private channel, so let me post my answer in public, allowing you all to be prepared ;)

    My current tools (TraCoMerger and TraCoConverter) allow to import/export/share meta data with the current TDJ version. We all do NOT know what happens if TDJ2 will appear in store, right?. I do NOT expect that my tools will still work with TDJ2 ... so in case you need the meta data input essentially maybe think twice before downloading the announced TDJ2 !.

    Same with the S2mk2 and S4mk2 user .. these controller are supported in TDJ1 .. I do not see any statement from NI that TDJ2 will too.

    So my message to help you all as best i can in moment:
    S2mk2 user, S4mk2 user and all user which need my TraCo tools (or any option to share meta data) essentially should avoid that a TDJ2 installation overwrites your TDJ1 by accident. My personal recommendation: make a backup of TDJ1 now (see below)!

    We all do not know when NI will sunset the TDJ1, right ? ... so if you want to be on safe side, you could do what I did: I made a backup of my purchased TDJ to my PC. You need a ‘real’ backup the app file, means you need a backup which included the file "Traktor DJ 1.6.8.ipa". Her comes my 2nd hint: Any iOS backups (in iCloud or itunes) do NOT contain this file ! - Apple removed this feature some time ago, the backup contains a link to the app in store only! -> this means: if a app gets sunset in app store your backup does not help at all. How did I solve this issue for me: I use the application iMazing, this allowed me to backup my current TDJ app: https://imazing.com/ I cannot take any guarantee for this tools, even do not want to recommend any tools from any companies (maybe other companies have similar tools I don't know), but I wanted to post what I did to be prepared.

    This link shows you how to export an ipa file with iMazing ;): https://imazing.com/guides/how-to-manage-apps-without-itunes (see min 6:59)

    So I hope this hints avoids some 'bad surprise' for some of you, maybe make a backup of your "Traktor DJ 1.6.8.ipa" file now

    cheers
    kalo
     
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  5. Kalo

    Kalo Active Member

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    Minor follow up, to keep my TraCo tool friends up2date ;):

    - TDJ1 (for iPad) works with TraCo tools, TDJ1 also back in appstore (in parrallel to TDJ2). So even user which did not purchase this app in past can download. I still recommend to make an update as described in earlier post, because we all don't know how long available. Anyhow, good news (and THX to NI!) for havin the 1.6.8.ipa back in store :). Detail: the iPhone version is not available, but iPhone did not support iCloud anyhow (and couln't be used since Dropbox support ended)

    - TDJ2 is not supported from my tools, simple reason: TDJ2 does NOT use any collection.nml any longer. NI developed a new data base structure for meta data (i assume the new idea also for Traktor Pro in future), but this database in currently not accessable via file sharing or iCloud, used internally in TDJ2 only, we have to wait until NI will publish these file. Feel free to send me a private post if you need more details. Btw: latest TDJ2 also support the older S2/S4mk2 meanwhile.

    so enjoy TDJ1 with my tools as i do,
    enjoy TDJ2 in parralel (to play around without meta data sharing),
    cheers,

    kalo :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Kalo

    Kalo Active Member

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    brief update (after 1 year ;)): NI TDJ2 still does not support any collection.nml, neither sharing on iCloud. NI folks mentioned that meta data sharing is on the TDJ2 roadmap, but i have no idea when this will come. So for now i am still using my TraCo tools with TDJ1 & TPro (2or3).
     
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  7. dj_estrela

    dj_estrela Well-Known Member

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  8. Kalo

    Kalo Active Member

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    thank you dj_estrela :). Your links (and in particular your Traktor TSI editor CMDR) are great too.
    Never want to miss your CMDR for my Traktor Pro mappings:thumbsup:
     
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