Traktor 3 MACTEL Universal Binaries Beta Test

Firstly, bad luck on beer soaked PB. Thats a *****!

One of my points is that you can DJ on your MBP. The only inconvenience is that you have to boot into Windows to do so.

Yes, that's a real pain in the arse, but it works! And you're not even going to be able to tell the difference when you put Traktor on Fullscreen.

 

Thanks, that really was bad luck!

As it seems, you already tried that on Win. Can you tell me if and how I can transfer my playlists from T-Mac to T-Win? I put them together in iTunes, import them in Traktor and they're all on an external, Mac formatted HD. Or point me to where I can read about it in the manual (RTFM, I know … but it's not there, is it?). I'd go for that, for now, if a migration is possible. Sigh.

 

This is not that easy.
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/06/17/syncing_itunes.html
can help but if your not a coder that may be a bit too much.

You could try the Export playlist function in itunes but I haven't tried (as I have tooooooo many playlists).

The real problem is the location of your tracks (currently on your mac partition). Assuming you can access your mac partition (Macdrive6 allows you to do this
http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive6/ ), The problem is file location paths change format / location in windows.


Or you could just go for a shift...
http://playlistmag.com/features/2005/08/shiftitunes/index.php

Hope that helps

 

actually I waited until the Grace Period as well. I understand what you're saying, but so far I don't see it as having saved $100, I see it as having wasted $330 (traktor + audio kontrol). It's useless to me so far.

And I understand this works if I boot to windows, but why should I have to spend MORE money to have this software operate. Would NI be willing to rebate me the costs of having to purchase a Windoz license to get their software to work?

And I must have merely misunderstood Phil's role. Since he's admin I assumed he was professionaly related to NI. to quote him, "my bad"

 

Whoa … that's a thrill.
Assuming using T. only temporarily on Win, is it possible to import T.'s .nml playlists created on a Mac into the Win version of T. by just placing them into the specific folder? I already bought MacDrive for another problem I had to solve.

Why I ask? Well, I don't want to spend time to install and set it up just to find out that it won't work this way (or another) …

 

Hi there

You can do this, well, I tried it with an external drive... I set up both the Win and Mac versions to use the same folder as their playlist folder.

Create the playlist and export and Bob's your Auntie's live in lover.

 

The Playlists and collection are all XML so you can use a text editor search and replace to change from OSX paths to Windows paths. Back up you file first open one change an entry or two save it for the windows version of Traktor and see what you get when you open the Windows version version of the file in Traktor. It does not keep your playlists in sync between version but it does mean you can simply pull your current playlists over to Windows. I did this to my collection and playlist files, I'll do it to go back to OSX too.

Phil

 

<Unapologetic Prick> Now thats funny!!! In just the last week or so, I was accused on the forums for being the official NI Sicophantic Apologist. Interesting that you see otherwise... I guess it all comes down to opinions and we all know what it is that they say about those. On the second of those two words... Thats old news, I do try not to be a prick, but like you, I have my moments and my days. In response, Its really not endearing as a new user to arrive in a new furum, then immediately launch into attack mode, thats just me though do as you will. From my perspective newcomers often bring new ideas and they are worth listening to. If you were expecting some tirade in response to your comment then you're not gonna be happy with this. If you were basing your original opinion on the sum of yesterdays proceedings on the boards you are right, at least on the second part of your assertion. It was not a good day at all. I choose to blame my days demeanor on the misbehavior of SQL2005 on an 8-way server here, but thats a seperate issue.

Anyways you do raise an interesting point worth noting. Its that time of year again where many of us are under tons of pressure and our personal interactions are not always what they should be. There does tend to be more heated exchanges this time of year. I would hope I'm not the root cause of such. I will have to look out for that. We need to remember that if 10 of us sat down in a room to discuss any of the contentious issues raised here, 2 things would happen:
There would be at least 12 differing opinions on the matter, That is good and healthy, it shows diversity of thought.
The second thing about bringing 10 people into the room, is that the conversation would be more civil than on the forums.

I personally try to work by the rule of not saying here that which I would not say in person, I also for the most part never take what I read too personally either, but try never to totally discount those opinions as well. I would hope more would do the same and I think the vast majority already do. For the most part here people conduct themselves tremendously well. I respect others views even when I strongly disagree with them.
I expect that if someone feels the need to call me out for bad attitude or blatant misbehavior that they can do so. People have done so before and its happened right here, so point noted. I'm of the opinion that everyone gets to and can state their opinion on the forums on any relevant topic and it can get aired.... with one exception! Abuse. You would not walk in to a room with 10 DJ's in it, and proceed to call someone a F##kwit. Thats not OK there, nor is it OK here. I will reign in anyone here that does so. If you need to attack something attack the issue not the person. You may disagree with the opinion or the person making the statement, It does not mean they are not allowed to hold the opinion they do. That someone holds a counter-opinion to you does not make that person the root of all evil. They nor you should have to apologize for taking the position they do.

As has been pointed out by Xover, Panasonic and ellrond, I'm not an employee of NI. I step in here to support the community and its all voluntary. It not an excuse and its certainly not an excuse for bad behavior. Its also not a licence to be an apologist for NI. On more than one occasion I have been accused of such and its usually rolled out in exasperated moments when heated discussion reaches an impass, I see it as kind of like calling someone a 'troll'. I'm not offended by it but it does cause me to recheck what I consider correct position. One advantage of this volunteer role is that I can speak against something I don't believe is right. I sometimes do, consider my opinions on the U.K. penalty pricing of Beatport. There are also times where I disagree with a decision, but understand the background to it. Where some people loose the plot (on why or how I take a position on something) is that while I may disagree with it, I will commit to supporting it and making it work. Its a thing called 'disagree and commit', something I learned working at Intel for close to 7 years. I don't have the luxury of being a key stakeholder at NI, so I work with the decisions made. It doesn't accomplish anything fighting against the business decisions I cannot change, they will happen anyway, so I voice the collective opinion and work to make these things as successful as they can be. When it comes to taking things from the forum back to NI, the same applies. If there is a collective opinion on some matter I will represent it to the best of my abilities even if I disagree with it. On the forums here that seems to be a hard thing for a some people to grasp.

Now lets apply that background to the matter of the U.B. release.
As you know I'm in the very boat that many here are. My Laptop is a McBookPro so I'm in the same boat as many running MacTels. I do run Windows (Vista right now) and have no problems with doing so. I have a working solution but it is a bit of a PITA dual booting! I've wanted to see the U.B Release since spring 06 when I got the McBook Pro, longer than a good many here. I have seen the release slip through the year but can understand the issues releated to that. For the most part I've been O.K. because I have a working solution and I do sympathize with those who for technical or other valid reasons can't run Windows. I don't have sympathy though for those who complain they have no solution simply because the solution involves Windows and 'they are Mac people!' Its a different issue though, so back to task...

When I found out about the further 3.2 delay late last week, I stopped and looked at what it really meant. I can understand the reasoning and on a certain level it makes some sense. However I disagree with the notion that delaying the MacTel release for the introduction of the new Beatport inline store is the best solution for users. This is a specific opinion I have conveyed to Friedemann. We now have several/many users migrating to other hardware based solutions who are tired of waiting and those users will be hard to attract back to Traktor given their hardware attachment. You cannot fault those users for being upset at the repeated delays.

On the other side of this very same issue (one door closes, another opens). I recognize that the decision has been made, it won't change, so its now a matter of how to make best use of the time made available to us. There is great value in the matter of time when testing software, having some extra weeks means we can work a little longer and harder to find bugs and performance issues and to fix and further test them. That does not immediately much help those waiting for MacTel code right now now though.

Regardless of what I do or say, someone, for whatever personal reason is going to find fault with it, someone is going to be angry that they personally did not get their problem solved. When people do get angry especially when they make a request to me to fix something either unreasonable or unchangeable by me, I 'm not going to sit there passively and accept the rant or abuse. I'm no-ones whipping-boy and if that means I'm perceived as an unapologetic prick then so be it. Just remember you as the questioner had the opportunity to ask the question in a civil manner and chose to go another road. That I should be expected to simply tolerate the abuse or misdirected rant is unreasonable. Be Upset, thats fine be reasonable and civil with it it, if I fail to respond in kind, Call me on it.

Phil

 

I clearly want to add that I acknowledge and value someone's writing in such an elaborate and (!) valuable, merely because of information and 'hey I'm in here too' passed on to others. That's what I think forums are here for.

So please stop aiming at certain people and annoy others users here (and keep us from improving this forum as a source of i.n.f.o.r.m.a.t.i.o.n.). I suggest if someone wants to insult someone, please do write up a personal message and keep it personal. I'm tired of reading bollocks 'bout 'tis, I want progress on Traktor, not just another afternoon TV show debate worth a pish. Phil, no pun intended, ukwis.

 

First off, I wasn't asking a question. I was clearly stating my displeasure with the current situation.

Yes, I noted this in my last post. I suppose I apologize for making that assumption. But on further review... while all this **** is hitting the fan you are certainly coming off as NI's patsy. These delays ARE NOT cool. Why isn't there someone here who can speak with the authority and official voice of NI to explain why those of us who have invested our hard earned cash into their company's products have to (and should) deal with these delays? They've obviously left you here to receive and filter their users' feedback and criticisms.

I concur. I try to follow the same rule. I said what I said to you because I thought you were the official representative of NI on this forum (though I've been informed you aren't on their payroll, I'm still not convinced that I'm completely wrong). If ten of us were in a room with an employee of the NI Traktor group I'd happily lay out the same comments I did before. I believe that NI is currently taking it's Traktor customers for granted. The current excuse of, "It's not ready yet. Wouldn't you be happier if we waited to release UB when it's good and ready, instead of releasing a buggy version on schedule?" The answer is: "No, I'd be happier if you release a good and ready version on schedule!"
Yes, I know this is now an unobtainable conclusion. But what it isn't is a complete ignoring of NI's inability to fulfill it's promises to its customers. And with the impressive competition now presented in M-Audio's Torq, why do they expect us to just stick around?
If you aren't them, then THEY should be on this forum. They should be explaining to us why we shouldn't jump ship.

 

Great News Phil. Thanks for the Informations *G*

(I buy at beatport but will never use it in traktor self *G*)

 

What a bummer ...

How can I get a download link to the Win Version of Traktor? I searched the user and registration pages for it, all I could find was the current Win updater. I remember having both options when I bought my download version of Traktor, but hey, I didn't know this could once be of interest ... I already filed a support request, but would that do it?

 

Good question I think if you bought the OSX version all you are able to see is the OSX stuff right? I believe support is the right first step. Let me ask Andreas if he has guidance here?

Phil

 

Thanks, Phil. I just had a call to the support line about this and they're sending me a new download link for the Win version.

I like phone support, yeah!

 

Hey Panasonic hit me up by email before you do anything bootcamp related, something that might change that plan a bit.
jplewis01@comcast.net

 

I'm trying to skype you right now …
didn't work out tho, so I sent a mail.

 

Panasonic

I have tried storing my Traktor music and all the information on an external drive and it just doesnt seem to go between windows and osx very well.

 

That's bad news for now … could you please be more specific of how it's not going well? Is it file locations?

 

For me its exactly that. Where paths are concerned Win and OSX don't meet. My Collection files are seperate but the two point at the same music folders. I write stripes and extended info to all my tracks so the info is present in both collections but when it comes to any of the files with path info in them the two different pathing structures : & \ don't interoperate.

Phil

 

How its betatest look??its stable??it will be relese in november??? thnx