TRAKTOR DJ STUDIO 3 Announced

Interesting idea.... No wait.... Too late....You shall go to the ball....

Phil

 

I'm not sure if anyone has requested this but will album art be included in this version. Searching for tracks and remembering them by name is increasingly difficult. As there is beatport integration, it would be great if each track could have a little icon like the beatport one next to each track.

With the growing number of tracks I have, I simply can't remember them all by name - a visual clue is really needed with album art part of the MP3, with this being displayed in Traktor.

 

wow......

just wow.......

 

"I'm not sure if anyone has requested this but will album art be included in this version. Searching for tracks and remembering them by name is increasingly difficult. As there is beatport integration, it would be great if each track could have a little icon like the beatport one next to each track.

With the growing number of tracks I have, I simply can't remember them all by name - a visual clue is really needed with album art part of the MP3, with this being displayed in Traktor."

......................Let us Observe a Moment of Silence!...........................

 

Nah lets turn it up!

Things to consider... where are you going to get your art work from? Is there some expectation that Beatport will provide it it for you? What about the other 1-99% of music you get? Assuming you do get art work and its the label Icon how is that going to help you recoginze a particular Stereo Productions from the other 79 in your collection? or the latest Global Underground track form the other 42 or the particular White Label from the other 772 white labels in you collection?

it strikes me that our current Genre system is where we breakdown. If we had a subgenre system you could define yourself you could break genres down into subcategories say 4 or 5 more levels deep you could much better define your styles. In my mind if I heard the latest Plump DJ's Track I instantly associate the style with a particular Breaks style, in my mind its quite different from Rennie Pilgrem, Quivver Fretwell and many other others.
Soul of Man, Dub Pistols Meat Katie and Silencer on the other hand all fit. I agree sifting through hundreeds and or thousands of tracks for just the goods is daunting and becomes increasingly so.
I'm not totally against artwork in the browser I'm just totally unconvinced the effort of coding and implementing it will help you decide which of the 79 tracks from the same label is the one that will work perfectly. I'm also not convinced that subgenres will solve all the problem either BTW.

What about having some kind of Lightweight backend master database and music store you can check music into and out of that maintains current state about waveform Cues BPM Comments etc that allow you to connect your Traktor system to go pull in the tracks you want play update tags comments etc then check the files back into the main library. It makes your libary portable backed up and your laptop able to maintain a smaller active set of files that is much easier to get your head around. there are lots of options for such system.
Also what about a scratchpad you could easily get to in traktor at the drop of a hat that would allow you to type some notes paste details fro a track playing in one deck or the highlighted track in the browser or you could paste details from Beatport to it.

One problem I find as I'm prelistening is that I find when I'm listening to tracks I find stuff I really like that I will buy but just not today, or I hear a track I like I on the web and I want to buy it later or I'm on Beatport building tracks for a set I buy it later so I want to put it on a wish or hold list for later. 10 seconds after the thought enters my mind its gone and I cannot remember what the track or tracks were and I'm pissed coz its a really good mix or mash most often, I'm always hearing some tracks somewhere that I think would fit a trance house or tribal set I'm doing. Today I use One Note and Foldershare.com to keep a quicknotes file accessible anywhere on my laptop, at work, at home it works really well It just wisk it was more integrated into the core OS and app functions. Keepig lists of random thoughts helps tremendously keeping good but easily forgotten ideas close at hand.

Phil

 

I've struggled quite a bit with creating mnemonic devices for two or three tracks which mix well together, or are just more likely to go well together in a set. I find myself often ignoring the genre field, since when I purchase a track, it might have a progressive sound to me, but the metadata that comes with it says house, or trance. (What the heck is 'Other,' anyway?

My current workaround is to populate the Grouping attribute with my own subgenres and then create Smart Playlists based on this attribute. It took a while to do this for my 1000+ tracks, but now when I purchase new ones, I just populate the Grouping field, and it gets added to the playlists I've already created, and periodically import those playlists into Traktor.

I mentioned in another thread that a useful feature in Traktor would be a labeling system similar to the Mac OS X Finder. Sort by label, then you've got your whole collection organized into subgenres that fit your tastes, not someone else's arbitrary opinion who probably didn't put as much thought into anyway. The advantage of this method is that you can sort tracks in a DJ context, and not in iTunes, which is a single-track playback context.

What does this all have to do with T3? Nothing, unless the file browser has some new organization tools for us to be excited about.

 

erm, huh?

 

Sarcasm perhaps?

Phil . . . I don't buy tracks based on producers - I buy stuff based on whether I like it or not. This means there's a lot of tracks bought that I've never even heard of the producer. I know what Plump DJ's sound like, I know Soul of Man etc etc, but they're more mainstream breaks producers (they are in the UK at least).

As humans we respond to visual clues - it's why, when using vinyl you look at the sleeve and instantly know what it is. I have a number of friends all using Final Scratch and it's something they all want too. If that's the case, many other must do too.

Okay, some tracks may not have album art, but it would help at least. I'm not expecting Beatport to provide it, though many online stores do (Stompy for example) and if that's the case I shall purchase from them and not Beatport.

Currently, Traktor does little to help searching (I'm not the only one that thinks it's search isn't great and the browser is a pain having to click sometimes more than 3 times to open a folder).

All your suggestions are fine but overly complex.

"What about having some kind of Lightweight backend master database and music store you can check music into and out of that maintains current state about waveform Cues BPM Comments etc that allow you to connect your Traktor system to go pull in the tracks you want play update tags comments etc then check the files back into the main library.".

I want to play records, not mess about with such complex things like that.

 

"Sarcasm perhaps?"

I'm not sure if anyone has requested this but will album art be included in this version.

Have you read all of the post's on this subject in this thread?
If not, page #1 is a good place to start.

 

werd!

what they are saying is it has already been discussed, and is still being discussed. read back a few pages.

 

....well its been a while since I posted here but reading Freidemanns post just brought back some some memories of the past.

I've been a long time NI user, from back from FS1.1 to 1.5. Then FS2 to TDJS2.5 and TDJS2.6. (Actually I start at N2IT's FS1.0).

All I can say is that update after update I have been promissed fixes for the problems to be fixed. I even payed for every update and every upgrade in hopes for fixes to old problems.... only to realize there were always new problems added to the list. (These updates ranged from $50US to $500US)

I tried to even help NI and Stanton as much as I could to fix these problems and do muliple tests to narrow down bugs as best as I can. From all these expirences I can say that I have never been happy with the customer service of NI (or Stanton). I have been lied to by NI employees and I can not trust this company anymore.

I can fully promise everyone here that I will not pay $99US to NI for a Traktor update again. The product looks good on paper but this just isnt the software company I was hoping it was time and time again.

The reason I have stayed with NI for so long is from the community that was formed out of the lack of support fron NI. A big thanks go out to Hobbes, Native girl, Phil, mastermix... man there ae so many people to thank I cant even write them all... so I'll just say a thank you to all of you who ever helped me out.

I still own my FS2 and TDJS2.6, but I'm afraid thats the furthest I think I'm going with NI. Best of luck to all of you guys!

 

@ mexicannnnnn_Tf, I'm with you all the way on this.
i started off with traktor dj 1.0 then bought traktor dj studio 2
upgraded to 2.1.1 then 2.5, then 2.6. the most stable version is without a doubt 2.5.3 so i will not be buying traktor 3 until i can be given a 100% guarantee that there will be no more unhandled exceptions, which make 2.6.1 and 2.6.2 totally useless for me to use.

 

I hear ya guys and you are right these old problems need to be fixed. Its still too early to know, but one or two already appear to be. Toby I do needz to talk to you about one problem pretty soon to.

One thing is very apparent in mixing with T3 tonight. If you learn to mix well with two or more decks you are definitely gonna take the art of the DJ to entirely new levels.

I'll see if we can get some short samples posted to give you an idea of what is possible. It doesn't tell the whole story but its a good place to start.

Phil

 

No problem Phil, you can e-mail me at djpsychotrance@msn.com or toby_379@msn.com


regards: Paul

 

I agree with much of your post, but are you kidding? Word is absolutely the worst program I have on my machine! I can count on Word to be slow each and every time I open it, and half the time it crashes. If it's not crashing, it's coming up with some dumb annoying wizard. On the other hand, I own a mobile DJ company and I've been using Traktor for about three years now. We average about 100 gigs a year. In that time, I've maybe had 1 crash in all that time when playing live. In comparison, I've had MANY more instances where a breaker tripped and interrupted my show...

As for CD players, while they are stable, they're not perfect. I have a Denon S5000 and I've seen it have "disc errors" on perfectly fine CDs on more than one occasion. While that's not an out and out crash, it is essentially a software glitch.

All in all, I'm not sure what you're waiting for. For me, 2.6.2 has been working great since it came out, alternatively you could go with 2.5.3 since there really seems to be a consensus of stability. In either case I personally think you should have ditched the CDs when Traktor 2.0 was released...

 

I have just recently bought a Hercules DJ Console for use with Traktor.
I think I read that Traktor currently supports the controler, but doesn't support midi out (or something like that) so it doesn't light up the lights etc..
Where as the dedicated version for the hercules console does.

Is this going to be changed in version 3 so I can use all the features of the studio version, but also light my lights

Later
Niietzshe

 

MIDI out is what you would need and at this point I believe the answer is NO. T3 supports Midi in but not out... at this point. There's no more to say than that right now.

Phil

 

Are there any advantages to buying the actual CD rather than an upgrade download? How many times can you use the upgrade (in case of formatting and stuff?)

 

In the case of re-installing on your Traktor system you are not limited. In the case of 'stuff' you are not limited by the installtion but you are limited by the registration tool.

I believe the license allows two concurrent installations where only one installation will be in use at any time.

Phil

 

Hmmm Bummer.
Would be nice if the peeps at NI were kind enough to implement MIDI out by the time of release... *Wink* *Wink* *Nudge* *Nudge*

I look forward to seeing TRAKTOR 3 in action.