Traktor for linux.

I'd like to see a Linux version. What it would mean to me is being able to use Traktor on a relatively inexpensive laptop (compared to Mac) as well as hopefully more stability.

 

Use Windows 8. It's supposed to run well on low power systems.

If your system can't handle Windows, it certainly won't be able to handle Traktor.

 

I understand this would make you and the other 3 Linux DJs very happy, but it won't happen

 

Oh come now. It's a free OS, stable and less a CPU hog than Windows. There are already other DJ software on Linux as well as DAWs. I'm sure the development of a Linux version of Traktor would pay for itself.

 

That must be why all the other major DAW and DJ software companies support Linux. Right?

There are more Windows Vista users than Linux users, and NI doesn't support Vista any more. Isn't the use of free, open source software the main idea behind using Linux?

 

Well Bitwig and Valve have put support into the Linux platform. There's also Mixx for Ubuntu. At any rate, I think it's worth a consider. I'll never use Windows again and Mac laptops are rather pricey.

 

You should probably get used to Mixxx then, or buy a cheap second hand Mac.

Valve's Linux support is mainly due to pushing the Steam Machine platform, rather than catering to existing Linux users who are unlikely to have a decent GPU anyway.

 

Absolutely, I would never disagree with that!!

That I would strongly disagree with, though.

 

Once, every couple of years someone posts this exact same request.
...and this is the point, once every few years not all the time. This is far too niche a request.

If you want to serious about DJing then buying a high end laptop should be not an issue.
If you don't want to be serious about DJing use some free software. The majority of NI hardware works with Linux.

There is absolutely no point in NI wasting resources on such a project just to allow people to use some bare-bones laptop or for people who want to get into such nerdy waters. It's nerdery for no reason.



This will never happen. It has been said by NI before that it will not happen. There is zero money in making a Linux version.

Also, comparing a company like NI with their massive product range with BitWig is a very bad comparison.

I have never had any stability issues with any of the numerous Macs I have used.

 

Supporting Linux is a very fundamential question and you can only support Linux right from the beginning. Like Bitwig did. They started from scratch and because they chose Java as the underlying platform (which is platform independent) Linux support was easy to accomplish.

All major DAWs were built before 2000 and back then Linux was not very usable for audio processing like today. But it caught up and is in my opinion far better than Windows 8 or Mac OSX.
If any of these DAWs should run on Linux a whole new Product must be written and maintained. Because you can not use Windows or Mac code for Linux. (Although there are some exceptions like the one Bitwig uses)

There are no more Linux DAWs because Linux is a bad platform, just because of their history.

The Filmindustry, especially for compositing (the process of merging computer generated imagery with camera recordings) makes excessive use of Linux. The Foundry Nuke runs perfectly on Linux and these linux computers are really high powered. Money is no problem, so they could use windows or a Mac Pro instead. But very often they don't. I am talking about the work behind epic movies like Transformers (jep made with Nuke on Linux). Of course this applies to pretty every Hollywood movie.

After we know that Linux itself is not the problem we just need to come to terms with the fact that most DJs are not working in Hollywood.

Most people use what they know and what they know and likely used their entire life is Windows. They are not using it because Bill Gates was such a talented programmer (just kidding) or the product itself is so gorgeous. Nope, that's not the reason.

And yes, Linux is free and opensource and writing and releasing a software as opensource is encouraged but not necessary. And people understand this. And you can make money by releasing software as opensource for free. Works fine. Although most Linux users are not used to buy software because until now there was no need to do so. But they can.

 

i totally agree with you Old_School....
i know alot of producers....
none of them would be able to make music if they wouldnt download illegal cracks....

i have had big troubles with windows 7 presets and settings, but it was quite ok...
if you compare it with win8.1 that is, which is simply pure evil, running biometric services, putting boot and wake on LAN enabled as default, all kinds of remote desktop services running constantly0 and apps like voice recognision, and measuring tools to know if the user is present,wont go into depth on these but my conclusion is..
that it was designed with all kind of possibilities to spy on your identity, probably in the mind of cybermonitoring programs for safety of the world as an ongoing "war on drugs and terrorism", using scripts, malware and virusses as the new low cost tool to achieve this.

this sounds quite paranoia, but i'm a victim of this kind of monitoring programs in belgium, thru a virus, and using all kind of preset windows tools and offcourse facebook, to connect to my samsung mobile phone running on java, they have tracked everystep i made, and believe me, it drives you literally quite crazy, as everyone claims you paranoia....

wont happen to me anymore though, tru the help of linux, which has for example amazing network security test versions,
linux is an amazingly good operating system, using all resources, good setting and user presets, very easy to use (Linux MINT 17.1 is great) without needing ultra pc skillz to work on you computer, and not ******* it up....

And indeed Apple laptops exceed alot of wallets, these days you need thousands of dollars to be able to produce, and even dj? What a fucked up world

mixxxx1.10.1 is too limited for me, as i need more than 2decks, really a pity, i would be glad to pay 100euros to be able to run TRAktor on linux lubuntu for example, which is ultry lightweight and would reduce latencies alot. But now ill do like all the rest i think, and make a HDD partition with an illegal windows version, with an illegal traktor version, piracy or being a rich mofo are the only options apparantly..

 

I don't even know where I should start ripping the above post into pieces.. So I won't.

 

mac OS is linux, making the mac OS into a standard linux program should`nt be too hard since, mac just have intel CPU`s, there are probably just some macro`s to wrap some code in for the mac compiler

linux distributions get a new kernel, and mac OS get the new release aswell, so 90% of the code would`nt need to be changed to run on any other linux distribution

 

This.

I think NI already invests far too much resources in niche features.

 

still, if traktor is written in c++, 90% of the code would`nt need to be changed, wrapping OS code in compiler macro`s is who all the big game engines become multi-platform and can run on 7 OS and game consoles

unreal engine UDK is free and does most things https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4

 

that`s the way it is when you have multiple SDK`s to code the same code in, then 1 line that is different, and multiple people are doing multiple things with the visual studio team server

NI has suppose to have made a billion dollars or something from somewhere

 

I would like to mention two things:

a.) Traktor actually runs fine (at least up to version 2.6.8) on Linux using WINE with wineasio. I even found it to perform a tiny little better on Linux using WINE than on Windows on the same hardware.
b.) It seems that Traktor is based on the QT GUI framework from version 2.7.0 on. This would actually make it much easier to create a Linux version. While I would love to see this, I have some doubts that this is the reason for using QT because it could also make it easier to create a Traktor version to run embedded on a controller (like an enhanced S8) which - if I was NI - would be my next move.

 

but if NI wants to release some of its own xdj`s type of controllers, that run standalone without a computer, using traktor instead of rekordbox, NI will need to have a linux version so they will not have to pay licence fee`s for a bulky windows or Mac OS

 

no, it does`nt matter if they have a single source, set up like how big game engines work, using compiler macro`s, after they have compared source files and merged them into a single source, it would save time after a month of tedious work

a better example of using 90% of the same code to run on windows/mac/linux is the doom 3 source which you can download from https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM-3

the engine is less lines of code them the actual game code

traktor just involves the midi and sound drivers

 

NI would have they`re own sound card in a standalone controller, like current firmwares have the soundcard code in, running on linux, you would be able to update the firmware over wifi, and connect to itunes etc and have auto traktor updates if enabled and have a wifi connection etc