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Dieses Thema im Forum "Feature Suggestions" wurde erstellt von Old_School, 20. März 2014.

  1. for all those

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    if NI has made a billion dollars, then they can probably pay the electric and wages bills for 10 years without releasing anything new
     
  2. for all those

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    its how software companies work

    I read somewhere the main owner of NI is a billionaire from shares, if he has a billion, NI has to have atleast a billion in the bank to spend
     
  3. [chris b]

    [chris b] NI Product Owner

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    NI has never sold shares, it's a privately owned company, and a pretty small one at that. I'd be surprised if they've turned a billion dollars over since formation let alone have that sort of money in the bank.
     
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    they dont need to, they have enough software, hardware and OEM licences to make their net worth more then pioneer who only sell hardware to a select few
     
  5. [chris b]

    [chris b] NI Product Owner

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    Pioneer is massively bigger than NI. Their DJ division is chicken feed compared to automotive, hence they reason they sold it, even then I suspect Pioneer DJ is significantly larger in value than NI.
     
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    but pioneers dj division was sold for $540 million or so
     
  7. [chris b]

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    Exactly. The market leader in DJ equipment for the past 20 years, is valued at half the bank balance of of NI? So NI would be valued at $1billion + non cash assets? Given they are a privately owned company NI probably have very little cash in the bank, profits will be reinvested in R&D and marketing.
     
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    they needed to pay for marketing 10 years ago before kontakt and traktor became world leaders and became stars at NAMM and in all dj magazines worldwide with all the headliners chatting about them
     
  9. [chris b]

    [chris b] NI Product Owner

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    That's a bit like saying Apple don't need marketing any more since the original Ipod was so successful.

    Very few big name DJ's use Traktor, or any other software for that matter these days. It's far easier for them to load some usb sticks and use Pioneer CDJ2000's.
     
  10. Karlos Santos

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    ..if he has a billion why would he give a rats a** about a niche OS that nobody other than people trying to prove a point want to use.
    He may as well make another billion from Windows and OS X users than waste some of his billion on a 3rd development team.

    This is never going to happen - people are just gonna have to accept it and move on to something else to get their 'geek on'.

    Karlos
     
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    the point is, that someone would`nt say or admit they have made a billion if they`re company is poor and struggling along
     
  12. Karlos Santos

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    The point is that this thread is pointless.
     
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    I dont know, alot of company`s dont like doing multi-platform software, because alot of people don`t know using a single source with c++ changes wrapped in compiler macro`s actually works

    so you wrapped the changes in ifdefs like in http://sourceforge.net/p/predef/wiki/Home/

    so every compiler on every OS will have a predefined macro saying which OS it is like _WIN32/_WIN64, and the same with linux and mac in gcc
     
  14. Karlos Santos

    Karlos Santos Rocket Man

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    None of it or this thread has anything to do with business - it is simply geekery for the sake of it.
     
  15. GoaSkin

    GoaSkin NI Product Owner

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    The required time to port software to further operating systems depends mainly on the frameworks a software is based on. In the most cases neither the kernel and drivers nor any low level libraries is anything the coders have to care about. For example: If the source code is based strictly on QT, SDL or WxWidgets, recompiling is the only thing to do to get a native binary version for another system. Such frameworks offer a large number of functions to code a software without needing to code procedures for each detail.

    But beside these famous open frameworks, there are hundreds of commercial development frameworks and each software company made once a decision on which the code of a given project is based. Native Instruments may use one more 3rd frameworks to realize Traktor. The precondition for a Linux port is that all used frameworks are also availlable for Linux. If any framework is not availlable for Linux, a port cannot be made until it is replaced with an alternative. Beside all the function calls that have to be replaced with others, the software has to be tested again and licenses for the alternatives be paid.

    A linux version of a software is only then no additional works if the linux support was realized at the beginning of the project.

    How many of the 3rd party stuff NI uses in its code, we don't know. And even not, how much of it is availlable for linux. So we also don't know, if NI must spend hours, weeks or months for a linux port.
     
  16. mastermc

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    Karlos is right , this thread is useless
     
  17. alec.tron

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    How a thread about a feature/OS support request is pointless is beyond me...
    But GoaSkin described it perfectly...unfortunately that's probably exactly NIs problem... that it's based on an old framework and not easily rewritten in something more open and modern (even if NI would want to... which, and there I agree, is unlikely or worded more aggressively, pointless to get opinionated about).
    c.