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Dieses Thema im Forum "General DJ Forum" wurde erstellt von djdrixx, 24. November 2006.

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  1. djdrixx

    djdrixx NI Product Owner

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    The Traktor Wiki can be found at the link below. If you have useful information to share please don't hesitate to add it.

    The Unofficial Traktor Wiki can be found here
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    Hi,

    The point has been written in the forum. Why not create a wiki for Traktor?

    What is the best way to go :
    - Using a free hosting service ?
    - create a wiki from scratch that need to be hosted on a server (I have some space left) ?

    Any good links to point to for the creation of a wiki?

    I have some free time this week-end and I can look at this.

    Thanks
     
  2. DJ Freshfluke

    DJ Freshfluke Traktor Mod

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    do you know how to setup this?
    link appreciated.
     
  3. Kaishu

    Kaishu New Member

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  4. DJ Freshfluke

    DJ Freshfluke Traktor Mod

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    ok, i'm having a look at it.

    i'm having webspace enough, good html knowledge and basic css knowledge, i hope this will be enough ;-)
     
  5. garret

    garret NI Product Owner

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    I set up a pHpWiki, but found it very difficult to administer.
    The idea of an open font of knowledge is great, but someone has to be prepared to oversee it.

    A while ago, I had the idea of creating a site exclusively for laptop DJs/ performing artists - especially those using Traktor, Live, Max MSP etc. I have installed e107, a CMS (Content Management System), on my webspace that I have some experience using and would be willing to admin it and help others to do so. It is easier to use than a Wiki and is more visitor friendly as a website with some cool features no present in your average Wiki type system.

    Phil Friel posted on this thread with some good ideas about how it could be run.

    I'll go ahead and set it up if it will be used and if others will help me run it.
    Any offers for the Traktor section? (especially from those in the know ;)

    I already have the name, but not registered the domain yet (although it is available!)
     
  6. h00lah00la

    h00lah00la NI Product Owner

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    Hi,

    I very much support to setup a Wiki for Traktor! It should be well prepared, however, I think.

    First of all, which Wiki to use - should probably be decided by whoever sets it up and admins it. I have good experiences with Dokuwiki, maybe Mediawiki would be more mainstream? It should probably also support inclusion of images, I'd say. As for a CMS - I'm not so convinced; you'll find less people to keep supporting it should you ever decide to retreat...

    Second, before you open it "for the public", maybe start with some well-prepared sections people can add to (Tips and tricks, known issues, setups, wishes, yadda yadda). Otherwise it'll be pretty chaotic pretty soon.

    Cheers, h00la
     
  7. nookie77

    nookie77 Forum Member

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    this is a great idea... i build websites for a living.... i would be willing to help out... oh, and i love traktor
     
  8. PhilL

    PhilL Moderator Moderator

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    Where did we get with this? Do you need a host for it? The Host I use for Konstruct has two installable packages TikiWiki and PhPwiki. If y'all can get people together to create and maintain a wiki, I would be happy to host it, I just don't have time to setup and do lots of work on it. I would be happy to contribute content.

    Phil
     
  9. h00lah00la

    h00lah00la NI Product Owner

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    I guess it depends on who has the time to admin it. djdrixx said he/she(?) can do it, garret said the same.

    Which host to use should be decided by the admin I think; as advice I'd vote for domainfactory as hoster and dokuwiki as wiki (that's one of the wikis they support, it's easy to install and it has images). But if someone has a different preference, just go for it. Only strong leaning I have is to really use a wiki and not something else...

    Next question is who'll pay for the hosting. Related to this is that maybe NI could host it, but then someone should contact someone there and see whether they want to support it. I'd definitely do it but I absolutely don't have the time for it, sorry.

    Should this maybe be made a sticky post and maybe also combined with a vote? Suggestion:
    [1] I want a wiki within NI's domain
    [2] I want a wiki outside NI's domain
    [3] I want something else (e.g. CMS, ...)
    [4] Let's keep discussions in the forum and not start a Wiki
    [5] I want world peace now

    Let's keep this rolling!

    Cheers, h00la
     
  10. garret

    garret NI Product Owner

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    Voting is a good idea.
    In order to help make the descision - Wiki
    (bare in mind that Wikipedia is a Wiki, honest! ;)

    Content Management System (CMS)

    To be honest, I do not mind which one is chosen. At the moment, I would have little to add to it in either case with respect to anything but the most basic things. However, I am becoming more familiar with the workings of a particular CMS which I chose to use to house a site which I intend to contain information about groups that play a particular type of music. Of course, I do not know everything about this subject and software that was relatively easy to use, administrate and add info to (e.g. has a WSIWYG interface, can be shown in different languages), while at the same time having other functions that might make it a little more attractive than a Wiki. Those functions being - A chatbox, mailing list, RSS, personal messaging, calendar, user up/downloads to name but a few. I realise that as a repository of information, these features might not be needed, but as I mentioned in my previous post, perhaps other things missing from the NI site could also be addressed at the same time.
    The CMS I chose was e107. My fledgling site about maracatu (the type of music) is at [ur]http:www.maracatu.net/news.php[/url]. I would, with the help of others, have the time to look after this kind of site, but found that a Wiki was too involved for me!
    So, hOOla - go for it! I'll certainly lend a hand if I can.

    If NI get involved in some way, ideally financially, it would help whoever takes on this job a great deal. I never venture out of the Traktor forums here, are users of any other NI software doing/ thinking of anything similar?
     
  11. djdrixx

    djdrixx NI Product Owner

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    what about this : http://www.wikispaces.com/
    Seems easy to use and cheap (not free for a ad free wiki)

    I'll dig into the tour this evening.

    PS: djdrixx is a HE :)
     
  12. PhilL

    PhilL Moderator Moderator

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    If you want free, I have you covered. It will just need peeps to administer it.
    My host supports all manner of CMS, Blogs Wiki etc. All I need to know it what you want to base the site on, I can setup the initial site and you guys will be free to admin it as you see fit.

    Phil
     
  13. garret

    garret NI Product Owner

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    - djdrixx: Looks much more user-friendly than Wikis I've used! Perhaps if we could find out which one they use, we could try installing it for ourselves, that way we would have more control.

    Great, so all that remains is to choose which software.

    Voting time.
     
  14. PhilL

    PhilL Moderator Moderator

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    Yep let me know what you come up with, if you wnat to use my host.

    Phil
     
  15. clavis

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    I have some Space for you guys.

    (great Idea)

    clavis
     
  16. h00lah00la

    h00lah00la NI Product Owner

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    Hi, seems we're getting somewhere, great!

    Just wanted to understand one thing in the discussion on whether to go for a CMS, a Blog or a Wiki:

    What I think makes a Wiki stand out is
    1) that anyone can easily add something (i.e. no long registration etc)
    2) that it is *not* chronological but more "logically" structured

    Is this offered by CMS and Blogs as well? If so, I'm fine with it.

    As for how to avoid spamming and edit wars etc, I'd hope that the majority of users behave themselves and the admin(s) can take care of the one or two lonely wackos. If this doesn't work, then maybe registration can be added, etc.

    As for an admin - has someone committed themselves yet? I'll happily add content and help layout etc, but I can't admin it, I don't have the time to regularly look after it.

    Let's keep this running!

    Cheers, h00la
     
  17. Technokrat

    Technokrat NI Product Owner

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    Wiki all the way!

    The way I see it a Wiki would be most suited for this. I think it is more important to organize entries "logically" as opposed to chonologically. You can still account for chonological changes (e.g. release version changes) by keeping the old entries in the Wiki but clearly labelling which version(s) a particular entry applies to. Also, in a Wiki, discussion is not merely limited to the comments like in a Blog. Last but not least I find it easier to look for and actually find information in a Wiki as opposed to a Blog.


    As for CMS: A Wiki is some sort of specialized CMS. No, forget the "specialized"... It is a CMS. Apart from that, I don't know what "cool features" we're missing in a Wiki that some CMS offer... It really comes down to organizing our common knowledge (or ignorence ;) ) of Traktor.

    Just my CHF 0.02.
     
  18. garret

    garret NI Product Owner

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    Re: Wiki all the way!

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    Don't ya think?

    I don't see why anyone would use a BLOG for such a purpose as this and agree that a Wiki would win hands down against a BLOG.

    CMS = Wiki - exactly.
    The only reason I suggested and continue to champion a Content Management System (e107 in particular) is because I am already familiar with how it works and, after having tried one, chose it over a Wiki (as detailed in one of my previous posts) for one of my own projects which requires something with decent content management capabilities.
    The content can laid out in sections and sub-sections. These can be in an endless, folder like structure.
    Have a look at the 'content' section of this site as a brief example of what I mean. I have set the site 'open' to submissions by the public for the time being, so have a go at submitting an item if you wish.

    I have already detailed some of the benefits (IMO) of this flavour of CMS; I don't know a Wiki that has as many user-friendly, modular features as e107, but then again, there are some features that most Wikis have over e107. Of course, if these features wouldn't be used, there is no point installing them.

    Swings and roundabouts!
     
  19. PhilL

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    seems like a couple of questions need to be answered outside of the what software questions, this may be decided in no small part by the where and who questions.

    1/ Where does it get hosted? I have offerred free space, other ideas may be also considered.
    2/ Who is going to be the admin and lead for the project?

    Since I'm only a contributor and helper to this project I am absolutely OK with whoever agrees to be the owner and point person.

    Where you host will almost certainly decide what you use. If you host on BeatChemistry.net you have several GB's of space many GB's per month of high rate bandwidth and you have the choice of two Wiki packages and serveral CMS packages. It takes mere minutes to install whatever is decided. I can setup one or other Wiki package and you could test out some stuff to see what works. If you don't like it and want to mov it elsewhere I'll help get your data out so you can move it.

    Whoever want to own it please let me know what you want to do and I will either work with you to get setup or wait till you have yourself setup elsewhere to start contributing.

    Phil
     
  20. garret

    garret NI Product Owner

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    Hmmm..
    Two questions that I think most people are also asking.
    I think we need 'Responsibility Man' as he's able to admin web software with a single click!

    Phil, could you let us know what CMS/ Wiki software is available, then, if working examples can be found, the potential admin(s) can make a decision and we shall be closer to a resolution.

    <just a thought>
    Perhaps people would like to start collating their relevant tips, hints etc whilst this discussion is going on.
    </just a thought>
     
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