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Trigger-based envelopes?

Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by aemxdp, Oct 22, 2017.

  1. aemxdp

    aemxdp NI Product Owner

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    I've tried every ADSR I found and all work the same: they send envelop signal to output only when there is nonzero gate input. For example, if I hold midi key for 100 ms, and envelop's attack is 500 ms, output will drop to zero instantly after releasing key, not even progressing further than the attack phase. I'm looking for a way to emit full envelop even if send just 1ms gate trigger. One solution is to use Gate Delay from EuroReakt which has width parameter which can turn trigger to a gate of specified length, but it's quite heavyweight solution and moreover, I don't want to specify time manually.

    PS: What I'm looking for is not necessarily ADSR, I'm interested in any envelopes like this.
     
  2. aemxdp

    aemxdp NI Product Owner

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    I just found out the block I always overlooked - West Coast CFG - does precisely this.
    It allows to specify rise and fall time and shapes, so it's kinda trigger-based AD envelope.
    Still may be useful to collect some other similar stuff here.

    PS: I also found out there is built-in UI-less variant of Gate Delay's width use-case - H envelop.
     
  3. colB

    colB NI Product Owner

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    ADSR is no good to you because it doesn't make sense without a gate due to the sustain component. AR is similar.

    what you need is an AD envelope. It's pretty easy to convert the core ADSR to an AD:
    ADSR to AD.PNG

    Just delete the release section of the ADSR and connect the Decay to the Process module, remove the Vel*S input to the Decay module, and delete the S and R input - no need for them now. Now this can be used in place of the ADSR module and it will work as a triggered AD.
     
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  4. Brett Lavallee

    Brett Lavallee NI Product Owner

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    I made a Block based on this, Greysky A/D in my recent upload. Thanks for the idea and the info.
     
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