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Two effects? Newb sorry.

Dieses Thema im Forum "ABSYNTH" wurde erstellt von James C, 6. August 2016.

  1. James C

    James C New Member

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    Using it in FX mode. I can put on on FX at a time how do i go to another page and it stays on. Thank you i tried searching for a bit nothing im asking is right.
     
  2. LBH

    LBH NI Product Owner

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    It's not only the effect section of Absynth that is used when you use Absynth as a Effect for incomming audio using the "Audio in" in the OSC's and it's settings in the "Performance" window. You actually use the whole synths features to create a effect. Then yes you can only use one effect in Absynths effect section, but as said you can use everything else in the synth too, to create your effect.
    Perhaps this video can give you an idea-
    It's a promotion Video, but you can get some info in there. Try start at 13:00.
    The rest is abaut studying and eksperimenting i guess.
     
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  3. James C

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    Ah ok yea i was just wondering if i could use two effects without making a second instance. Thanks for the heads up to skip ahead pretty interesting that you can do that. Since i couldnt do two effects i started to make my own with freq shifter. Very nice effect on a basic 2 osc serum patch. -23 saw +23 saw 1 voice each.

    http://imgur.com/a/NI550 I probably should start remembering numbers and ratios that work and see what double and half does. Cause i already noticed this before with FM in serum.. but since i started on a computer keyboard i set the init patch to -3 which limits how low i can set the FM. Something ill keep note of.

    To top it off i sent it here. http://imgur.com/a/PsGo8

    http://imgur.com/a/vYu4F

    http://www.dogsonacid.com/attachments/new-compressed-zipped-folder-zip.133468/

    Looped in sampler with crossfade and its pretty oldschool ish reese. Other waveforms sound pretty dope in the chain and i havent used the env section much yet.
     
  4. James C

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    Still cant figure out how to get the synths to do midi out so i dont have to use a midi out VST / layer for each time i want to have FM8 do keyboard tracking.

    http://imgur.com/a/5t3yw

    I have to use a midi out set to port 0 and that will trigger Fm8 FX and the synth. And if i do it with a sampler i have to do a layer bit annoying.

    for some reason it wont just send it on -- or 0 - 24 (all)
     
  5. LBH

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    I'm sorry. I have no clue what you wan't to do or if you ask something or not. I try to answer the best way i can and in the way i read your posts.

    This forum is about Absynth.
    I don't know anything about Serum. Serum is not a NI product.

    If you use a DAW you normally put and effect into some kind of audio effect chain. You don't need a seperate MIDI trigger to do that. You just need to input some audio. MIDI is not Audio.

    Like you can't make a single delay unit do two effects at the same time you can't make Absynth FX to do so. Using more instances to do more things is normal - unless you use a multi effect where you can chain different effects within the multi effect. In this regard remember that Absynth FX is not only about using Absynth effect module. Absynth FX is about using the whole Absynth synth as an effect just like the video i posted a link to show.

    I have no clue what you mean by this:
    You can select a incomming MIDI channel in both Absynth and FM8. If that specific channel also is output i don't know.
    In a DAWs you can make a instrument to trigger another. Please refer to the DAW manual about that.
    But remember the above on FX chains and audio.

    I have no clue what you wan't to do.
    To me it sounds like you are doing things too complicated. Perhaps you need to study things more and be careful not to drown in to many VST's and possibilities there might not do anything you really need, or that you can't do in a simpler way.

    If you have specific questions that's not about this threads topic "Absynth FX" - please make another topic and please make what you ask clear - including the context and about what you wan't to do and why.

    Best

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  6. James C

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    Was just talking figured If someone did know they would understand what I meant. Figured it's ni forum so just relax my main question was answered so thank you.
     
  7. James C

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    I do see I said newb but I know what I'm trying to do its not complicated. I want to fm serum with fm8 and it follow keyboard. Frequency shift with absynth with resonator. and ott in serum before I put in a sampler. Just dont like having to use layers and I've read the manual. like 10 times and several forums. so my bad it's early n I was hung over. n I ramble. peace.
     
  8. LBH

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    Peace.

    Perhaps i understand better now.
    Yes you need to be able to play FM8 to use it as effect this way i believe. In my DAW that do require to use a seperate track for the FX FM8.
    And of coarse if you wan't to use Absynth FX it a way where you need to play it too or for other reasons, then that also require a sepearate track in my DAW.
    I can play all tracks i arm using one MIDI channel. Or more MIDI channels if i need to and can control those and the VSTs allows it.
    And as said i can also select a VST as the input for another VST that's on a track in my DAW if needed.

    That means if you wan't to use Serum as your first audio signal, then you create a track for that.
    Then you for instance can insert FX FM8 as a insert for Serum and put that FX FM8 on a track. (Some DAW's i think use or can use sidechain to do similar. Ableton i think is one but i'm not sure.)
    Then you for instance can apply Absynth FX after FX FM8 in Serums insert chain. You don't need to put that Absynth FX on a track.
    This is one way to do it. You can for instance also use FX channels instead of using inserts. And you may have other possibilities. It's about how you wan't to mix and work what to do.

    The thing is that if you need to play something to get an effect, then that "something" need a track or another way to be played.

    I'm not a technician. Perhaps somebody know other ways to do all this.

    BTW. I believe Serum has FM synthesis of some kind allready. Warp i think. Don't know anything about it.
     
  9. James C

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    is what I'm doing.

    yeah Its ok fm. the phase modulation in massive is better for some reason (I belive it to be it's overpowered anti aliasing as draft brings it closer)

    prob can do it easier but in my mind the signal chain is clear mono to stereo this way.

    I ended up resampling it for that old school reese sound.

    not bad for first few hours using the fx plugins.