Solved Two musicians jamming with Maschine

I am setting up a project with a friend, including Maschine and keyboards (and guitar / synth).

everything works fine! We can jam and play together.

Problem!: If I want to record some drums and a MIDI-synth is played on another channel the channel will switch to the synth and record it. We want to play live. Not everything should be recorded. There seems to be no separate switch to prevent that, means setting a channel to ‚record‘ or ‚do not record‘.

Are we blind? Any ideas on this? How can one person play and record and the other only play. We are using one computer…

 

push the record button is just a midi recording.
at first you should read the manual about sampling ...

 

Thanks, but I do not have a problem with sampling or audio loops! Those work fine.

My problem is that you cannot disable midi recording - or I do not find it. In Logic or Ableton this is a basic function with the record per track.

I want one instrument midi record while the other is only playing live.

 

Unfortunately, this is a known limitation/missing functionality.
Playing with multiple input devices (Maschine Controller, MIDI Keyboard) is working properly, while MIDI input settings are set correctly.
But as soon as you start recording, Maschine will record everything (into a single pattern of the focus group).

 

Thanks! Not quite true. The recording is always to the dedicated instruments (Midi-Channel/Track)… but all at once.

I think we have to switch to Ableton or live with this limitation. Difficult decision.

 

Adding: The Channel that is playing will automatically focus…

 

maybe it helps to set your external synth that playing along with maschine,
to a midi chanel that´s not set within maschine?

 

lots of confusion here..

Keep in mind that altho Maschine can be used for live performance that's not what's it's really designed for, it's really a production tool. Since there is no arm-to-record function when you enable Record the focus system will take over and switch to whatever Pad/Group is receiving MIDI, there is no way around this.

However... You can trick the system if you can organize your project into Groups, for example in your 1 person plays drums while the other plays a Synth example:

1. Set up your one-shot Group with drums ready to do and put a Synth in a Pad in the same Group.
2. Set the Synth Pad MIDI input to only receive MIDI from the Keyboard's MIDI Port.
3. Set all the other (drum) Pads MIIDI Input source to "None" - this makes them only respond to Maschine HW and ignore other MIDI ports.

Now when you press record the Focus won't change, it will stay in that Group, you can play the Maschine pads while your friend plays the keyboard, iit's still not perfect because you will both need to record at the same time and for the same length.

I am assuming that when you say "Synth" you're talking about a soft synth inside Maschine, not a physical external Synth.

 

Thank you. Yes I am talking about softsynths.

I thought the strength of Maschine are live performances. Makes me think… maybe Ableton is the better tool for our goals. Although I love working with Maschine.

 

Or you could use two computers with two Maschines and synchronise them using Ableton Link. Not sure, but I think, you can also link it with Traktor and feed it with input from the both Maschines and mix it and further warp it in Traktor.....

I think Maschine is not designed/aimed to be used by two people at the same time.

 

Kubrak has a point. If you're on Mac you can also just duplicate the Maschine app and have two running at the same time, synced. Or 2 Mas-plug instances in a Daw, if you fancy the extra complications.

The names kind of say it all really... Ableton has like a million features tailored towards Live performance in it's Session View while Maschine is more of drum-machine inspired tool thus limited.
It can work but depends a lot of what you plan to do.

 

Thanks for your feedback.

I am very experienced in Logic… which will be our main tool for production in the end. We are used to it for years…. Ableton (that‘s what I read) is not a good (professional) tool for production. I think we work around the problem. In the end we will play live but not record too much in live situations. And that works fine!

For jamming and rehearsal it is OKeee if one of us is recording and the other just waits.

To mention: The performance of Maschine is great till now! Setup: Mac (M1 Max), Maschine, Arturia V-Collection, Arturia Keystep 37, M-Audio Code61, Novation Bass Station 2, Old Prophet Synth, Focusrite Scarlet 6i6, Electric Guitar and Midi Guitar 2.

It is all together a good setup to work with… No crashes within hours of jamming and live mixing.

 

Are you trying to start a war? This is a good way to start a war.

 

Oh. I thought there is no discussion about this here in Native Instruments Forum. I followed some discussions about this… Ableton is a good live and production DAW … but final Mixing is done in Pro Tools, Logic (and others). I thought so…

My question is answered… I am very happy with the drum sound of Maschine! And happy with the performance. Exporting Midi and Audio to Logic X is fine! Only thing I am missing is the ability to deselect tracks in order to not automatically record things … I hope someone from Native reads this. It‘s just a button per channel ;-)

 

There is no such thing as a DAW that is not good for professional production, it's all a matter of personal preference and what features the user values more.

This forum is generally pretty friendly and things very rarely get out of hand but I would avoid that sort of statement online as it tends to get people upset, it's like saying Windows/Mac is not good or bringing up politics or religion... people tend to start keyboard 'wars' as darkwaves said

Pro-Tools is the industry leader and standard in pro recording studios, for sure... Even if the studio's engineers prefer Reaper or something else customers often require opening PT sessions recorded elsewhere so PT isn't going anywhere in that segment of the industry, this sort of old standards ar nearly impossible to break due to how deeply rooted in the past they are... So if you ask a certain crowd they will say PT is the only 'Pro' DAW.
For production on the other hand using PT is somewhat rare, people mainly use Live, Studio One, Logic, FL, etc...

Glad to help. Don't expect that to change anytime soon tho... Things move slowly in Maschineland and this kind of change has been requested for nearly a decade, over and over.