Unconfirmed leaks about Maschine 2.0

Some of you guys just try to out-do or outsmart the previous guy with bigger and better ideas that can't work, unless you have the 3-4 major fixes:
The most important:
1) MULTI CORE SUPPORT...the MOST important.
2) TIME STRETCH
3) SAMPLER FIX...to see a bar passing through a sample, time line, measure line, how can anyone work with a sample that you recorded and try to trim it, cut etc, without a line, markers? You tried sampling?

 

maschine as a DAW....?

..i'm jerking off... :-D

 

I don't understand why some people want a stand alone Maschine. That would require hard drive, memory, processor, operating system etc to be added inside the hardware which would add several hundreds more price and the specs would be outdated in a couple of years. I think that standalone Maschine Mikro would be more intresting. It should be designed to be portable, like MPC 500. My opinion is that NI should concentrate on developing the current Maschine software and forget hardware modifications or other controllers.

 

i agree there should be a playhead, is that what you mean?

but this is not a major issue for me, maybe because i don't work with long samples.

sowari

 

A standalone Mikro could be awesome with mobile components.

Micro SD, Tegra 3 chip running Linux, Android or Windows 8.

 

As I sampled in my Maschine earlier today and hit the pad for the 43rd time to listen to the sample, zoomed, truncated, moved the start near the end so I wouldn't have to listen to 100% of the sample before hearing the part that needs to be edited out, zoomed in some more and hit the pad a few more times I thought to myself "DAMN we need a playhead".

I didn't really pay attention to the fact that there isn't one in the software itself until recently. Also I'd like note repeat to be individually assignable and locked per pad, but that's one for the feature request board unless it's there or it exists in software and I missed it.

Hope the rumors are true though, especially the Maschine DAW and Bridge like feature for Traktor.

 

Yes sowari, that's what I mean, I didn't know the term, you start needing the playhead once you don't have a synced/structured/rhythmical loop...

 

okay.

are you editing long samples? i tend to move the start time so i can hear near the end of the section in the sample where i want to move the End to, then i go back to the beginning.

sowari

 

Agree with this completely. The whole draw of Maschine is the combination of software and hardware... as much as I love the controller, I also love being able to edit on screen. I've had an MPC and I don't want to go back to squinting over a small, very basic screen for everything. Besides, the Maschine controller and my laptop together aren't as bulky as a MPC2000 and they're a lot more powerful.

 

Thanx, that is a good work around,...long samples? I guess, relatively speaking yes, 30sec to 90sec. and then trim it, would be nice to see a PLAYHEAD moving through and also see the sample in relation to number of bars at the recorded tempo, (now you see it only in time) so I can see if I want to fit that sample or part of it into a 8, 12, or 16 bar loop...

But still, it is great, that you can record sample, edit, trim, copy, paste, drag, everything in real time without stopping maschine...

 

don't need a NI DAW except it exceeds what BITWIG is promising to deliver

 

none of that matters unless the tools are in the software, look at the beat thang, it's got great specs but because the feature set/tools are not there it is nothing more than a paperweight, the mpc has not been relevant because it was the only game in town, it's been relevant because you can still do things on it that you cannot do with maschine, even with maschines all mighty laptop power, it still can't do a suite of very simple things that an mpc can do. Most mpc users don't need those lights or a big screen because most mpc users still use their ears more than they use their eyes, allot of time you'll see people with their eyes closed using an mpc, you won't ever see that in a maschine video and there's nothing wrong with that I'm just explaining why the small screen is not an issue to the majority of mpc users. of course not everyone feels this way including yourself and I respect that.

but let me say that I would be estatic if I could record automation from my hardware synths into maschine like i can the mpc without a crappy editor work around that doesn't even work for my synths.
and I would love to record and edit mutes on maschine like my mpc
and I would love to be able to use maschine without a computer like my mpc and I'm actually sure that one day these things and even more things that I can do with the mpc but can't with maschine right now will be possible.

the next frontier will be history repeating itself and I know one day maschine will have all of the necessary basic features of the mpc and I know that ni will be the first to cut the umbilical cord and leave the computer behind too............well maybe not the first but definitely they'll do it.

 

Even if they didn't do a thing to Maschine it would still be light years ahead of any of the current Mpcs...the fact that I can open up any VST alone makes Maschine a more valuable tool.

 

Word.

 

I am for a new controller, you have too be adventures and keep with the times, they always say "we never ment this for mashcine" there is only so much stuff you can tag on before it becomes bloat ware (most daws)

 

In no way would I buy a new controller (bought 1.6 last May)... especially not to get basic features they overlooked in the current version.

 

no doubt!

 

Thats a good hint, but all it is , is a hint. Did they mention side chaining? I just wish N.I. Would give us something to look forward to. If they get this done, I will most definitely give them great accolades.

 

Agree with what you're saying. I was probably not your typical MPC user... we used the MPCs as sequencers for our live sets and jams... midi imported from Logic triggering hardware with some drum samples inside the MPC. It did seem fairly limited as a composing tool though I'm sure later models improved on that. Always admired DJ Shadow for squeezing the max out of an MPC but that's not really my working method... I do think that if Maschine went multicore and added a few much requested features I could compose on Maschine.

I understand the 'using your ears' concept and it's a good one for certain things but using a small screen is not as good as a real screen for some procedures.

(Can't argue about Recording or Editing Mutes and Solos).

Bearing in mind everything you've written... it seems to me though that a lot of 'you MPC guys' might be better off going back to working on MPCs? If something does everything you want it to then why use something else and wish for it to be the first thing? Especially if being linked to a computer doesn't have any advantages for you personally.

 

The thing with a lot of MPC owners is that it's about the image and status they associate with having a MPC. Some of them are just obsessed collectors like Jahrome who admitted MPCs are like Jordans to him and that he thinks they should be overpriced so that only "pros" can afford them. It's just like the iconic status and blind brand loyalty to Technics 1200. You'll hear a lot of these MPC fanboys say things like "MPC IS hiphop" even though a lot of them use Maschine now (some even hide this fact) because the hardware MPC is no longer relevant in this software DAW world. It's all about their ego being so closely tied to their investment into the brand that they still need to be able to say things like "MPC is the greatest sampler in existence".