Using Battery with Maschine have to map all pads

Haven't had a chance to use Battery very often and today I opted to give it a try. I am using my MK3 hardware and opted to load Battery only to find that I can see an instance of it loaded on the screens but every #000, #001, #002 etc says n/a and I had to use the mouse instead of the hardware.

A quick shift/edit showed the plugin inside of Maschine and using the Keyboard C3 triggered the bottom right most sound in Battery.

Why won't the physical pads on my MK3 trigger the colored matrix inside of Battery? I have to click the teeny tiny midi icon and ensure that the midi key I want to associate is selected then hit the pad and continue for all 16. Is there a setting I'm missing to get Battery to automatically map the sounds to each pad on Maschine without having to map each one over and over, like being able to adjust each midi C3 etc with the encoders rather than the opposite?

 

Hello,

you have to do it manually but after why not save it as preset?

Uwe

 

I’ll have to look into how to do that!

 

Just right click on a group and save as group preset then you'll find it under user presets.

Uwe

 

Thanks Uwe!!

 

1. Load a Battery kit into a sound.
2. right click the group, select "Group Midi Batch Setup --> Sounds to Midi Notes"
3. select sounds 2 - 16 click the Channel icon-->Output-->Midi-->Destination and select S1: blah...blah

all pads should be lit in pad mode and each triggering a Battery cell. just set the root key in pad mode to whatever note triggers the first battery cell. note, this does not route each individual cell audio to the sound, but sends all output to the first sound only...a tad more complicated to accomplish that...

most important step>.. save it as a group preset as Uwe303 recommends!

peace,

Blindeddie

 

Hey...
I haven´t use Battery in Maschine so far.
Apart from Battery´s sampler, what is the benefit to use Battery in Maschine?

 

Exactly. Sometimes too many things for the same job ends up in a confusion, especially when you are new to both. I mean those using Battery from years, would always prefer Battery, and same for Maschine. But those, like me, who have not used either of them for that much times always has to choose between the two.

This is especially true for Expansions, where kits are offered for both Battery and Maschine. The idea is that those who have Maschine would use Maschine kits irrespective of whether have Battery or not. Those without Maschine would use Battery kits, obviously.

So, answering to my own question, I feel the intention is, if you have Maschine, you would very well use Maschine kits and Battery remains kinda unused. But again, it comes to workflow. Use what you like or know how to use best.

 

As I thought. I like the sampler GUI and it´s features but I'm not going to use Battery as log as I use Maschine SW.
Shortly, I was thinking about shaping my drums (layers) inside of Battery - if there is a huge benefit for me - but I'm pretty sure I´ll do it within Maschine (there I'm familiar with it).

 

Now I‘m really interested who is using Battery in Maschine and why?

 

I use it all the time, I find it easier to put together Multi-Velocity-Sample kits, and I spent a bunch of time doing the Individual Batt Cell audio out mapping so that each cell can be processed individually in a Maschine group (The part I did not explain in my post above due to the relative complexity). But if I am using single sample drums (or synth sounds) then I just set them up in a group... and I do this because the Sample Zone velocity layer setup procedure in the Maschine Sampler is akin to the Kontakt and is more difficult for a variety of reasons I will not get in to!!

Its the old Work Smarter not Harder scenario...

Peace,

Blindeddie

 

Maybe it is a bit faster and more intuitive to layer and shape some drum samples within Battery because of it‘s good Sampler modules. Personally, I’am not sure right now.
How do you layer the sounds? Do you use the MIDI learn function to assign a trigger note (Maschine Pad) to more than one Battery cells? If yes, how to redo when cells are linked?

 

If you want to trigger more than one cell using a single pad in Maschine, assign the same midi note triggered by that pad to multiple Battery cells.

being that Battery can have up to 128 cells and a Maschine group has 16 sounds, you could layer up to 8 battery cells per pad.

Edit: Or you could trigger 128 Battery cells with one Maschine pad...

Peace,

Blindeddie

 

Maschine sequencer sucks unless you are doing loopy loop music.

So I use a sequencer within a DAW (such as studio one or Live) and a Maschine controller in MIDI mode to trigger.

Batteries big advantage is that it's a dedicated sampler without a sequencer, it's just a trigger pad. Not only that it has no plugin hosting, so it takes up far fewer resources, I can use plugins on my DAW.

If I liked Maschines sequencer (eg it had a decent song mode) I probably would start using it, consequently I would find battery less useful as I would be using Maschine's sampler instead.

Incidentally as I'm here I want to say hi to the admin who blocked me on the FB Native Instruments users group when I stated (and gave reasons) as to why Maschine is not a DAW. If you are reading this, you Sir are an absolute pillock.

Sorry about that, probably should not bring in dirty washing but I can't help myself. Moving on...

 

What you got blocked for that?? What an %€'&:+€ admin is this. But nowadays it seems normal to block or even hate people for their different opinions? But maybe it was always the same.

Uwe

 

As somebody said you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. In this case it was an absolute undeniable fact backed up by clear evidence, that got in the way of somebody's belief system, who just so happens to be an admin of 37,000 followers. Better things to worry about, I suspect he mods in-between his McDonalds shifts.

EDIT - by refering to "you" I didn't mean Uwe!!

 

Wow, this thread took a 180 pretty quick!

Peace,

Blindeddie

 

I guess so. I don’t use Battery often (since I did not know about the mapping) but happened to be searching for a kick and the particular one I got was in battery.

 

Added an extra line to my last post to make it clearer!

Yeah sorry totally my fault, let's stick to topic...

 

Thanks for pointing that out but that was clear to me from beginning on. So no problem on my side. But better to be clear than some......

Uwe

And I also don't use battery in maschine that makes no sense to me maybe for layering on one maschine pad but have the ability to apply different fx and stuff to every layer.