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Vocal multi take recording and comping

Discussion in 'Feature Suggestions' started by paulallenbright, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. paulallenbright

    paulallenbright NI Product Owner

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    Just got a new machine studio and a jam I am loving this thing. I want to stay in the machine software in my entire workflow. The only option that I need that would allow me to do that, and not have to jump into a daw, is to give me the ability to be able to do a multi take vocal recording in looped record session, and then the ability to comp the record vocal samples and pick the one I want putting them into patterns following the machine workflow.

    If I could get that, machine for me would do everything I needed it to do to by my daw replacement. Love to stay completely in the machine environment. After using machines software/hardware combination I don’t want to use another daw. But I have to be able to do multi take vocal recording and the comping of those takes stored into patterns. Please give consideration to that.

    Best regards and thank you so much for some fantastic hardware....all I need now is a 88key v2 Komplete Kontrol keyboard...
     
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  2. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Multi-take recording would be very nice to have (for vocals or anything else).
    Bare in mind Maschine is not a DAW and such feature might not be coming anytime soon.
     
  3. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    What's stopping you from this workflow already?

    Either using the recording history on a Sound or spreading takes across Sounds, I've been working this way in Maschine for ages.

    Or do you mean something else by "multi-take"?
     
  4. paulallenbright

    paulallenbright NI Product Owner

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    If you mean multi take.. by setting a loop ..like verse 1.. turning on the ability to record audio.. sing your version.. the loop executes and starts over then a new sample is initiated and recorded.. so when your done with all your takes.. you have multiple sample files you can comp through them to pick choose parts of each sample or all in order to build a single sample of all the takes comped together... typical workflow in daw like studio one..
     
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  5. paulallenbright

    paulallenbright NI Product Owner

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    understand .. but I'm not sure I would agree with Maschine not being in the daw territory.. its starting to enter that area as NI puts in new features..

    yea a basic daw... but still the potential is there plus the added value of full integration with the ni hardware.. win.. win... I would love the ability of staying in one piece of software from the creative music side (instruments, multi take vocal recording with the ability to comp the takes to get you to that final vocal track), then mixing it all together.. then export out the results to take that to master software.. That would be my dream machine software work flow.. Don't get wrong it works well as it is, I really like this software.. yea I'm new to it.... just having to jump between machine and other software. . easy enough.... would be nice to have it in the maschine workflow itself.. I currently only use maschine as a standalone and export out the wave files.. right now.. As my knowledge grows I'm sure that will change... best regards and thanks..
     
  6. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    This sounds a lot like the workflow I've had recording vocals, guitars etc. in Maschine for ages. Perhaps it is implemented differently than you want or know and lacks some automatic aspects some software has, but the manual approach has advantages too e.g., choosing whether you're ready to record another take on the next pass or not.
     
  7. paulallenbright

    paulallenbright NI Product Owner

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    most likely its my lack of knowledge about maschine at this point, I am going through video training.. .. but right now I be ignorant, I don't know what I don't know ...lol I've had my mashine / jam combo a whole 5 days ..now ...:)
     
  8. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    As far as multi takes I get what your saying, it can totally de done in a manual way but please explain your "comping method", because I see no practical way of splitting multiple "takes" to use the best parts without wasting a ton of time.
     
  9. paulallenbright

    paulallenbright NI Product Owner

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    knowledge is a dangerous thing... watching the ask video series machine 2.0 explained.. just finished the sampling vid..

    With that said the easiest way I see to partially implement this.. inside the Sampling->Recording section right by the Start Button .. put a check box called.... "multi take". Also maybe a text box with a pre- name selection the user can pick like: "VoiceRecording" When this kicks it appends.. VoiceRecording01, VoiceRecording02 etc..

    Basic Function:

    When Multi Take is checked/enabled during a recording sample session, when it reaches the end of the selected bar length..... the software automatically takes that recorded sample and put it into a new pattern using the naming specified by the user, then loops back around and continues recording ...rinse / repeat. It does this until user stops the record session.

    Now the user has however many new patterns that the software looped during the record session... then its just a matter of manually going through using the sampling editor / slice tools already built in .. yea this part is a little more manual then what would be in a daw.. but its a cool first step implementation and allow the user to slice the best parts to build the vocal takes... and follows the current workflow setup in maschine software...
     
  10. paulallenbright

    paulallenbright NI Product Owner

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    This is how the full process works in studio one.. yea I know maschine is different animal, and I should NOT have the same expectations.. but I post this video here as a reference on how they implemented comping after getting the multiple recorded samples.. i'm not saying do this, even suggesting it.. .. its just how someone else achieve it...



    Getting automatic multi take records on the loop to create new patterns would be a time saver in its self... the workflow to record then becomes seemless to capture the takes.... the edit / comping part a little more effect... but completely doable with whats already in maschine....

    Personally I would say Maschine is a daw .. now.. and every day with the new features being added by NI.. the lines are getting blurrier.. lol I think that is a very good thing.. Kudos NI ... Kudos...