We want full midi¡¡¡

I personally feel that all our requests for full midi will probably fall on deaf ears. Anyway my MPC Renaissance should show up in a few days. So ill compair the Maschine and the Akai's MPC Ren

 

Hello,

This is my biggest concern. I hope the best but i think NI fears that users will take a illegal copy and use it with
3rd Party Controller if implementation is to good - a kind of copy protection i guess. And all users who paid for it have the disadvantages. I really hope i´m wrong and one day i can use my bcr2000 and record automation directly without Cubase or an other DAW.

And once again NI " WE WANT FULL MIDI"

Uwe

 

I agree, this is probably the problem.
However, as a Mikro mkI user, I can pretty safely say NO controller will come close to the full Maschine hardware.

Regardless, cracked NI plugs have always been around and never affected the company. Weakening their own software by limiting it's MIDI functionality really does the paying customers a disservice.

 

Having just bought Cthulhu i would like to be able to route midi within Maschine.

 

MASCHINE FULL MIDI OR GOING TO mpc renaissance.END

 

I have have the Renaissance now, its good, the midi features are good too..

 

do you confirm that the akai ren has full midi support?i mean can you record external hardware movements(knobs)into the ren ?

 

If your looking to use external hardware, the Akai Ren records all knob parameters directly from the (in my case) Virus TI's control surface via the standard midi din ports no problem.

Nearly any hardware synth with full blown midi will record and play back notes, program changes, and any knob movements.

Work flow is obviously a bit different but easy enough to figure out. The only thing I am not sure about is multitimberal plugins that only allow one instance of it self (havent tested multitimberal plugins yet).

I'm still getting familiar with it, so have a bit to learn yet. Hope that helps.

 

Come on NI, implement full midi before we all jump ship. I've been using Maschine since the beginning but I'm seriously considering switching to the MPC Ren solely for this reason.

Let Maschine fulfill its potential!

 

Bump. +1 to midi CC.

The ability to output midi CC to external gear would make this tool so much more useful!

 

Yeah, I agree. I Have an entire studio full of hardware synths and I bought Maschine to use as a replacement for my MPC 2500, recording and playing back notes, CC's & everything else a midi port is capable of transmitting. I wanted to use it to FULLY sequence and as a drum machine. I'm very disappointed in it's complete uselessness in these areas. Some of us love real synths, some of us love real analog, some of us really want to use Maschine as a replacement for an older outboard sequencer bc sequencing is easier to do visually. WHY WOULD YOU STOP AT 'Well, it records notes' I'm very disappointed. "Here's half of two midi jacks, hope we fooled you!" is how i'm left feeling. Back to the MPC, back to Akai, Back to real support & production!

Please follow through Native Instruments, why would you not?

 

...sorry, but i don't get why you bought maschine when it's clear that (right now) it doesn't support these kind of features?...and why do you think it's useless as a drum machine?...you seem to have a very specific way to make music, because for me it works flawless (and not only as a 'drum machine')...

 

The thing is, midi is an established spec, so leaving out big chunks like full CC leaves you with a feature that isn't truly midi.

I could overlook the half hearted implementation, cos the sequencer was so hands on it made up for the shortfalls, but the midi timing was so shocking it was unusable. A separate midi interface was better but I still got dropped notes and wobbly timing.

I know this is a problem with most software these days but why bother including the feature at all if it's not properly done?

Tbh though i don't think this is a priority for NI, the demand for decent midi is probably pretty low....

 

Scheffkoch, It works great as a drum machine, if all you want to do is make your music inside a computer. That's not how NI represents it though. They speak of Midi that can be utilized with external hardware. However the sequencer in maschine won't record anything other than notes from external gear.

In trying to use it as a drum machine sequenced by, say my MPC, it doesn't seem output it's own note on/off, requiring me to run it's sequencer which only responds to MMC and midi clock signals essentially having two sequencers running at once which is not fun, especially as maschine in this instance is not rock solid. Midi's been around since the early 80's... can it really be that difficult to update software to function within those parameters?
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Nightstep, in researching the Renaissance i've found numerous posts about software issues & crashes, have you run into these? Or have things been updated to operate properly.. what's your experience?

 

At the start there were a few bugs with saving files and just random crashes, but i recently updated the software for the MPC Ren, so it runs pretty rock solid for me now.

 

Need more pressure¡¡¡
Post here if you have a external gear synth¡¡¡¡

 

holy crap, this thread is massive

 

Honestly if you want full midi get Akai's MPC range! I sold my Maschine and got MPC Renaissance, I now have full midi, even their cheaper MPC Studio has external midi.

 

i am tired to say it again and again many years now.full midi.nothing compares to the hardware synth quality.maybe they want us to use komplete's synths to automate but i want fall into this trapi dont like the vst synths quality and i dont use them(komplete's synths quality really sucks).i have 7-8 hardware synths and i am not gonna stop working with them. seriously thinking to jump into mpc(maybe ren or studio)i love to work with maschine but this limitation with the midi cc is pushing me away.
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hi.does the ren also sending program changes or sysex?could not find that info anywhere.what about ren's midi external clock?is it stable as the older mpc series?

 

you might wanna wait until the next update before you go another route.