What are you looking for in the UL?

What are you looking for in an upload to the UL? Simple question really out of interest I was wondering what people actually look for. I spent the morning looking around thread where people speak about what they liked but I was hoping for something more direct. Certainly Reaktor can address many styles from experimental to trendy. I guess what I want to know is what do you come to Reaktor for the most.

 

Hi. Well, I'm looking for synthesizers and samplers, I'm not much interested in other stuff. I'm into atmospheric Deep House, Tech House, Dubstep, Experemental. I was trying to find something that REALLY fits into my productions, but didn't find outstanding synth. There are some really nice one out there (for example Modular by herw and synths like Viral Extinction, Sick Basstard, Juno06 by other users) but not really what I EXACTLY want to find. Probably someone can recommend me. I want to make some deep chord synths, dark sounds. From Reaktor library I'm fan of Kaleidon and Junatik synths, especially the first one where you can make almost any sound (presets there like CH etc. etc.). Anyway, I'm using Reaktor for about a month or so, but I think I need time to learn it and to make synth I want

 

Carbon2 didn't interest you? Pure Phase in the making music thread used that a good deal and to good ends. StephanV's stuff did you try his nord emu (look for most recent version) that does so really good stuff. Also if Junatik interests you there is a really great sound SH-101 emu in your Classics Library folder that comes with R5 installtion disc there are many sampler there as well, its a good idea to go through that library if you haven't yet.

But perhaps I should define more. Be specific about the type of things that you look for what is it in a synth as you mention that you look for what have found missing. Synths are something I know but samplers not so much.

 

Carbon2 does it as well, probably I should have written it in my list of best from Reaktor library. But we have to stick user library question. I will follow your advice and check StephanV's synths, thanks for this! Probably I can post some short previews and samples of what I'm looking for. I would appreciate any help a lot

 

i love Carbon 1 and the possibilities of Carbon 2, but i have its snaps.
Carbon 1's snaps are better imho.

Stephan V's uploads are fantastic and he usually provides some good snapshots.

some audio examples of what you are looking for would be good

sowari

 

Vile creatures by Stephan V is good for very good for bass lines as well. here are some of my fav Fatcat is really deep and Numalik offers many possiblites, OB-Y says it all.

Numalik III v1.4 by pierre-andre soulier

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=userlibrary&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=detail&patchid=6051

Fatcat v3.0 by santoni pascal

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=userlibrary&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=detail&patchid=4295

OB-Y v1.0 by ZooTooK

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=userlibrary&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=detail&patchid=4344
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I guess if the answer is not in the UL then we need to direct them where it is at or post it here, within the realm of Reaktor.
I hope this will be help as people look for things and are not finding it or getting us builders to fill the gaps.

 

do you need 303 action? Here's one Sowari and I worked on.

There is also LunchBox in the UL which I think is the all fav or those that go for that sound.

 

Thanks a lot guys! I will get all those synths you've recommended me! By the way, AcidBee is a masterpiece I worked on ReBirth a long time ago, it was the program I've started with and now this ensemble creates same patches as ReBirth. I stored it in my collection, really nice.

Here is something I'm looking for:

1) The Mulder - Who's John Silva:

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1289380-02-01-15.mp3

2) Subsky - Out Of Focus (same EP):

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1289380-02-01-17.mp3

3) Aardvarck - 1ne:

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1380470-02-01-01.mp3

4) Asusu - Detroit:

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF1334204-02-01-02.mp3

Those chords, basses and deep sounds - that's what I'm looking for. "Dub Calls" preset in Vierring is for example the exact sound I'm interested in

Also, is there some speech processor (like robot saying numbers, phrases, etc.)?

 

you need to look in NI's Xmas gift and dL it. after you install it look for Photone and open the Ens. That has what you are looking for. I think you would also enjoy EI2, Ok those are not UL answers.

as far as the speech things that is something I keep meaning to get to. Speak and spell style.

Did you get Boogle Beat's from the UL? That would do well for the above examples with drums.

 

The two main things that interest me are 'sound generators' and 'non-static fx processors' (audio file/input processors with little repeated output and non-linear variation within a constrained universe of parameter settings).

As I have a whole cadre of techniques (larger Logic environments+assorted Mac stand-alone app's with realtime routing access) to create modular sound blocks from such devices these types of ensembles contribute heavily to a personal library of 'compositional concrete objects' that can be used raw or further mutated for theme/variation of motif/textures in larger settings.

Given my techniques, certainly any unusual synth can be 'hooked in' to a generational scenario and the 'funny' sequencing contraptions (Mr. Zobel, Jopy, and way too many others to mention) often provide a 'pick-up band' of avant garde conspirators to 'jam' with and inspire imaginary underground private press concept albums

I also get a lot of use from the occasional 'drum synth/sequencers' that combine Reaktor's quirky processing and randomization features...where a whole theme'ed library of rhythm tracks/loops can be generated/mutated automatically by one of my 'machines' to fuel a whole variety of project directions in short shrift (i.e creating a 'series' of beat variations mutated at 4 bar marks over 128 measures and then sliced back out+key & bpm tagged for individual looping and arrangement 'Lego'ing ).

Pretty much, the UL on any day can suggest a new direction or be a bottomless quarry of sonic materials to feed existing ideas/projects.

My work philosophy is 'I'll try anything once' Even though my personal hobby is mad scientist experimentation, many a 'from the edge' research result has found it's way into a comparatively 'popular music' setting.

 

I find myself attracted to sounds that change and move ... a lot or a little, like with Spark. I sounds more organic, or natural or real. Whatever you want to call it. I find this in a mix with even one "real" live acoustic instrument can be very convincing as something not purely electronic. On the other hand, I also like the pure electronic sounds of vintage synths and music in the Euro-synth tradition. If you look at any of the snaps I make, more often than not phaser, chorus and lfo settings will be very slow, to try and get that slow evolving sound. To me, if you hit the same key five or six times in a row and each time the timbre is just a tiny bit different, that's a good synth patch.
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Photone (El. Inst. vol 2), Subharmonic, Carbon, Steam Pipe 2 and Junatik are my favorite NI synths. From the UL, I come back often to: Auralis, NZ-1, V-Waves, Ringer, Slipperpain. Just to name a few real quick. These are all fat sounding and unique and deep, from a programming pov.

 

I'm looking for synths that are keyboardist oriented. I found what I was looking for recently in Jonathan Style's De-Evolution v5. I swear it sounds like a moog modular! A very well patched moog modular! Stephan V.'s synths are so oriented to playing as well. I love every one of them.My favorites are V-Waves, Viral Extintion, and the earlier version of Concept X(v1.1). I also have a soft spot for Fourious in all it's incarnations. Tricky to use, but when you hit with it, it produces sounds like nothing else I've heard.

That, and I'm always on the hunt for groove boxes, less so since Reason 4 added their groovemixer. Still, that's one of the things that I love about Reaktor. It produces such innovative beats, the sky's literally the limit. I often like to combine Reaktor beatboxes with Reason's redrum. Redrum adds a nice accent to Reaktors much more flexible beat creation environment.

I also hunt for tools for dynamics. There was a recent post in the UL that basically was an 8 band compressor. Did amazing things to the sound of my mixes. Everything just seemed to jump out. Can't remember it's name offhand, though. It's a fairly recent upload, however.

*edit* Soundshaper, that's it.
Oh, and Horuschild, thanx SO much for posting Acidbee!

 

A.Smirnov:

1,2,3,4,

Carbon 1, Stephan V uploads, and Drum machines by Ba.

it's all in the programming

sowari

 

I can't say I'm looking for anything in particular.
It's a great pleasure to log into the UL and find something surprising, unusual, beautiful looking and sounding, and inspiring. There are no specifics. And neither should there be, that would be a terrible limiter on the possibilities.

 

Thank you! I have some Stephan V synths already as well as Carbon, will get those Drum machines asap.

 

Horuschild/Tubaman instruments

 

i also like sounds that move, but i wish people would us a looping envelopes more often. the James Walker-Hall Envelope in our collaborations SoWaDo (taken from in Oki 2) is very nice for evolving sounds. LFOs are nice, but a bit predictable.

yea, maybe i would like builders to be a bit more adventurous with their modulation sources (and destinations).

sowari

 

Dito - I'm looking for the unexpected. Things that you'd never find as a commercial VSTi...

 

I am would be interested in the following:

- generative sound manglers: employing nonlinear, chaotic,
probability, genetic mutators, l-system, or geometric control
signals to navigate sampled material. I also want to be able
to script high level behavior changes in these and switch between
them.

- physical models: high quality physical models similar to Perry Cook's Synthesis ToolKit:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk/

- spectral manipulators: ensembles employing convolution,
spectal crossfading, spectral recontextulization, etc.

 

Which ensemble is this? The SH-101 EMU