What sample rate in Maschine / computer?

Thank you. This is exactly where I have trouble understanding what's right and wrong. The output sample rate is not adaptive, right?

Meaning that the audio being played either matches the output or gets resampled. Yes, if the DAW accesses your computers sound card / interface settings to change the sample rate then it's all good.
But what if you playback different files outside of your DAW? Files that have varying sample rates?

Do you happen to know how much quality will suffer when the audio gets resampled? Is upsampling or downsampling worse for quality?

Most people probably think I'm worrying too much but this seems like an essential topic to me which somehow gets no attention from the general crowd.

I'm just the type of person that if I have a question I keep diggin' for the answer. This topic is really interesting to me and bugging me like hell at the same time.

 

Changing the sample rate of an audio file is not a neutral activity, that is to say if compared the two files are unlikely to phase cancel.

However, this does not necessarily mean that you would be able to hear a difference between the original audio and the converted audio.

If you wish to be totally anal about achieving maximum audio quality then you would ensure that all samples being played are at the sample rate you have set in your DAW.

If you wish to include audio which has been sampled at a different rate, then the ideal is to first convert the audio in a specialised program outside of your DAW.

It is quite easy to test for yourself how much up/down sampling within your DAW affects your listening experience. You may well find that it is extremely trivial.

I would suggest that if you stick to a sample rate of 44.1kHz you are unlikely to be disappointed.

 

You're answer OP's first question. I was addressing his second, which said

I agree, on input, 24 bit is a known quantity that has higher headroom and sounds "better" etc. etc. What I was addressing was about his speakers, which frankly, I did not even know your speakers had a sample rate. It's not a setting I've ever heard of or seen discussed. Hence my "Just try a few and pick one" - Don't believe it matters, so why waste time.

 

Indeed, he probably means the audio interface assigned to his speakers, if you ever find a way to set a sample rate on the actual speakers themselves lemmie know, it may require a slight quantum adjustment

 

Thanks for the info guys. This opened my eyes to something I never even really considered. Time to change a few things and see how things go.

 

Yeah , he’s talking about his onboard Mac sound card.
He’s basically asking , if set Maschine to 48khz do I need to set the onboard Mac sound card to 48 kHz ....

The answer is NO
Because when you change the sample rate in Maschine , it will change the sample rate of the soundcard for you.

 

I can up to 192khz


But I generally use 48khz



44.1 gives me the same latency

 

Aldred411 does it support El Sierra?
Their page says >>new El Capitan update is available<< in the 1st page!
But maybe the page recognised my OS?..
Are you happy with the drivers? Latest update seems from 2015 here:
https://www.zoom-na.com/sites/default/files/products/downloads/pdfs/TAC-2_Driver_v2.0.12_en.pdf

 

That may depend on the project, mostly VSTIs, sampler only or both/mixed.. maybe?
Also my test was very quick and non-scientific.

 

Ok i got a trophy that i am addicted to write to this forum.
I will spam the forum all night, because i am addicted

 

I’m using it in high Sierra, but yes they haven’t updated the drivers for a while , not sure why , but everything seems to work ok.

 

Yeah I think, if you did further testing over a range of projects, you would find that, unfortunately, increasing the sample rate is not a real solution to improve low latency performance. This is particularly obvious when using CPU intensive plug-ins such as Diva.

Interestingly, in Ableton Live when you double the sample rate, Live automatically doubles the buffer size to maintain a constant CPU loading and vice versa when halving the sample rate (though you can override this).

 

That was my guess, it may depend if your project includes mostly VSTIs or internal sampler plugin.I mostly use maschine as sampler & rhytmbox.

Also a side note, i've noticed Maschine uses more CPU than a DAW (i use ableton) with the same VSTIs.
Even NI VSTI plugins like Reaktor, let alone 3rd party Diva..

 

that was part of it but i also wanted to know in general -> 48 kHz file played at 44.1 kHz or vice versa.

 

thing is on macs you can set a different sample rate for the built in speakers and the microphone but I guess they run thru the same internal sound card.

 

how do i change the bit resolution of my recordings? when i sample it records 32 bit files, i wann got for 24 or 16...

 

I agree with this and that is why I use 88.2 often. However, I never achieve your numbers with my 2016 MacBook Pro with i7 quadcore and 16GB ram with a solid-state drive. What Mac are you using to get those numbers?

 

somebody?

 

Maybe it's useful if you tell us which devices you use.

René

 

maschine mk3
motu 828es
imac 2016

in ableton you can set the sample rate and the bit rate for your recordings. in maschine, i can set the sample rate to 44.1k Hz but everything i sample comes out as a 32 bit file... i would like to have 16bit / 44.1k Hz