Whats your go to online music distribution service for STEMS?

At some smaller services, you already can upload in STEMS format. I hope some big ones like TuneCore or CDBaby will follow soon. Tell me about your experience with the services that announced STEMS distribution.

 

As long as peoples give other alternatives as well then I see no reason why to ban someone.

 

Funny thing: None of the "Free" stem downloads works at Dubseed.com - even if registered.

Let me guess: It´s perfectly fine on DJ Starfalls account.....

 

I was asking for a provider where I can distribute STEM files on platforms like Beatport and others. So can we get back to the topic, please?

 

No - you didn´t....

 

Hey everyone,
I guess ill step in here and clear the water.
Dubseed is a project myself and a buddy started a while ago as means of creating a social marketplace for people to freely upload/download and/or sell their .stems. It is fully self funded out of our own pockets, as a part time project, to help push the stems movement forward. Our main goal at this point is to get early adopters to use the site. We are reaching out to the users of this forum for feedback and support, as this community best understands and supports the new format. Our goal isnt to exploit, spam, rip off, or take advantage of anyone. We simply want to get a fun project in the hands of people that would use it.

@Christian Pier im very sorry to digress from your original question. As far as a great distribution service to get your stems out, I would strong recommend reaching out to the dudes at Symphonic Distribution, or Fuga distribution. They both seem to be pushing the stems movement forward more so than any other distributors. Feel free to shoot me an email and I can tell you more about both agencies, and perhaps shoot out an intro to you and someone at either team: robert@dubseed.com

Cheers,

Rob

 

A couple things do add credit to the site,
One he Robert gives his personal or at least direct email, which I used and can say it's legit.
There are no redirection links on the site, if you click to listen or any area you don't get stuck looking at or taken to some fake rip off scam.
I tested out some of the free stuff and it worked fine.
Also to upload anything you have to enter a Soundcloud address. And prove your music. This keeps things a bit more tidy I'm sure.
And so far this is about all there really is for a site that has useful stems from users.

 

http://djworx.com/dubseed-laughs-at-your-puny-four-track-only-stems/
Here is the Djworx review.
I agree though, the posts do come off as spammy. But at least a very legit source as DJworx gives some attention to them.

 

Purely good intentions we promise. We simply want to be a resource that musicians use to help grow the stem community, and dont have any malicious intent (despite what some people think).

 

Why would you sell stems for $5? Surely $50 or $100 is more like it at least? Is $5 really the going rate? To unpack your song and allow derivative works from it?? Come one...

 

In this case leaving my wallet alone on a diners table must be safe. No one will dare taking my money for this means theft!
Owning copyright legal protection and/or getting refund for any abuse at court (sometime later) are still different things.

 

Really well said, and what a fantastic name, good sir.
How's the planet-building business?

 

Well, at the moment here on Magrathea city it´s unutterly brilliant! Maybe the main reason for me to look after other construction kit such as stems....
But I would never sell any continent in raw parts - such as coast, mountains, valleys and landscape - not even to mice....

 

The number of bars and amount of composition involved?

 

It's not being taken without permission with Stems, permission to remix is given in the sale of the stem, hence I figured a larger sale fee in lieu of a license, would be more appropriate, no? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the whole concept. I figured it was similar to sample library licenses, but on a single song scale.

By composition, I mean there's more notes composed over a 5 minute song, than in a 2 bar break. Session bassists were often given writing credits because of the compositional nature to their basslines.

If someone lifts your 5 minute bassline, I'd hope they accordingly give you writing credit and a performance credit. But it's far easier to disguise a derivative from a 5 minute song... hence, again, I figured a larger fee would cover such a scenario.

 

Eh? Where did I say I was worried about it? I wasn't thinking the higher price I mentioned wasn't a deterrent, but a form of license/permission, as with a sample license purchase, which allows you to use the samples in derivative works (but not to make a new sample library from them).

So then what are you allowed to do with stems then, if not to create derivative works from them? I thought that was the whole point?
It's only to get funky and play around with the 4 stems when DJing that particular song live?

 

Absolutely it's covered by copyright/moral rights etc, but that any assignment of license would be at the point of sale when you download the actual mp4 file. If you buy a stem.mp4 for $5000 for example, you'd want it to include a license to make derivative works for it...
So what are $5 stem files allowing you to do? Just mute the bass/drums etc if you DJ the song live?

 

Have you read or watched any of the promotional material?

 

As I am sure you are aware stems of music and using isolated or purchased or liscenced material is not new. But this specific introduction by NI is geared specifically at live DJ use, of course on NI equipment. But in hopes of other hardware/software providers and producers making it available. Of course comments about top 40 and copyright stuff is coming up, so I am guessing it won't be easy to just get Micheal Jackson's estate to give us his full life's work to be used by anyone. Its going to be a nonstop issue in the music industry regardless of the way music gets used and made. But once the parts are sold as a tool such as this Stem format I am sure it's a different set of rules.

Basically NI and a lot of us are just hoping people will make this a standard way of mixing for Dj and quick mixes that sound and work better than the standard filtering or major cutting up and sampling.

Anyone who already produces and has the means to make authorized remixes probably does not need this format other than to extract parts and continue the longer more involved process of production. Which requires a different skill set than the use of what NI is calling the Stem format.

I think people are confusing the Stems format introduction by NI with production and also many assumptions that the bulk of Stems for sale will be limited to copyright. And the original artist work. Correct me if I am wrong but why would someone isolate parts of a track in this way if they did not want anyone to use it to make other mixes deviating from the original work? I could just see Vanilla Ice sitting in court with a judge asking him why he sold stems formatted music and then sued all the buyers?

 

That´s the point! And the reason we won´t see a lot of mainstream stems......