When's 2.0 coming out?

Looking at the thousands upon thousands of slightly different keyboards out there, I find it highly unlikely that NI will be able to come out with a 'one-size-fits-all' keyboard Maschine that will be popular enough to sell well. People want different things from their keyboards, and any keyboard complements Maschine.

How many keys should it have? Weighted? Pads? Faders?

 

I think if they can incorporate a main sequence screen on the Maschine controller that resembles the one on the RS-16x here:
http://homepage.mac.com/seishu/ssworks/rs16x/rs16x.html
it would be a game changer and would really allow folks to be completely independent from looking at the computer screen to program beats when needed. I think this would top it off!
The Maschine is dope! Trust me. I've worked with everything from the SP-12 to the MPC-60 and every MPC to the MPC 2500!

 

Now I like that idea!

 

Who knows when 2.0 is coming and what it will bring. As for the controller, I've always had the idea that NI will have different controllers for different users.

Just like Mikro, you will not be forced to have it, but it's there for those that want it. I can definitely see different variations of controllers for maschine, who knows, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

As cool as it would be to see an MPC 2500/5000 sized Maschine, I really don't think they'll go bigger then the form factor they have now. The whole point of Maschine was that you could easily take it with you and that it is smaller then the larger MPC's. This would go against their whole approach.

I would definitely like to see an enhanced waveform and the ability to play with audio files in Maschine. I don't get why their time stretch doesn't just use an advanced form of Traktor's beat grids. Although I am curious to see if they can have time stretching/warping done completely through the controller without having to touch the mouse.

 

let's not forget, different users want different things, as shown with the Mikro. Not everyone is mobile, or takes Maschine with them.

Just like those that wanted something smaller, there are users that would prefer a larger, more robust controller.

As with anything else, I'm sure NI is in tune with what the users want, the user base is much larger than what's here on the forum, they get input from multiple different sources.

 

the new hardware controller should also have a jog wheel

the data slider

softer pads and tiltable screens

and some tighter knobs

in the software mp3 support better waveform ala tracktor also audio tracks.

 

um you know that all the controllers will work, similar to what they did with the mikro you know, they took things away but its fully functional....
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true it won't appeal to all, but neither does the mikro...
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if they let me design it, it would be wicked.... and i'm sure all the people that saying they don't want it will, want it....
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hey a keyboard will give you guys note repeat for them cool killer arpeggiators riffs...

 

I want to see 20 pads (still 4 columns, just an extra row) on a new controller. I play keyboard mode on Maschine better than I play a midi keyboard..

 

I'd quite like NI go all modular on us and bring out a series of Maschine controllers that could add extra functionality to the current one.

So for instance Mikro users could add the 8 button/knob controller to their controller, Maschine users would have an extra 8 macros to play with etc).

 

this sound cool, but they also should let you assign knobs and sliders from third parties

 

yo really I don't think NI would have to ditch anything but more so have options to accommodation the different styles of producers. What about your producer that had a MPC hooked up to a Triton? I think being able to travel with something is cool but remember maschine is software controlled by hardware so you could have a mikro and original leave the original in the studio and have a mikro for portable. Why wouldn't you be able to have the keyboard for your studio and maschine for performance or on the go? I personally like the ASR10 and would have liked it better if it had 2 screens on it and plugged into my computer lol. Everything doesn't have to be portable.

 

I think it's important to note that a controller with all the functionality some of you are describing would go for at least $800, maybe a grand or more. At that price point some of the available alternatives could start to make Maschine look a little weak.

In addition, there are some pretty basic features that Maschine users have been requesting for years, perhaps it's fair to say the Maschine dev team is already stretched a little thin. I'd rather see NI continue to improve the weak points in a generally strong product than blow the whole thing up, introduce something completely different, and leave users with two half-finished Maschines.

Finally, with the functionality that exists in Maschine today, it's impossible to use any MIDI device as a dedicated Maschine companion controller. It even acts wonky with keyboards under certain circumstances. I'd prefer if they introduced proper MIDI mapping capabilities (the Traktor team could probably share a bit of wisdom here) and let the user decide what their supermaschine should look like (mine wouldn't have any keys, but it would have some faders, more knobs, and probably a touchscreen, none of which I need to, or even want to, buy from NI).

 

+1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 YES!

Please just fix the BASICS (sample editing, midi routing, save kits, etc)!

Ignore these lustful gear sluts who seem to literally live on this forum...do you even make music!

....Or just collect gear! I wonder...I really wonder....

 

That's the wrong use of punctuation.

But to your point. Given that most people on the Maschine forum own Maschine, it's likely they have jobs. People probably do a lot of posting from work. This may also explain why they are able to do so much research on gear.

Computers these days can do more than one thing. It's probably not uncommon for people to use the command + tab (or control + tab on a PC) keys to tab to their favorite web page. We'll say that's the NI Maschine user forum. In other words, even if a person is "making music" they probably still take breaks. While on that break, they might check out the forum.

There are probably students on this forum as well. Perhaps these people check the forums in between classes or before school and do most of their music making at night.

These are just a few examples of how or why people spend time on this forum.

Hopefully now you don't have to wonder anymore.

 

+1

 

I was going to post a thread about this!
IM a bit fed up (no fault of NI) but its a mess having to have a separate sound card and keyboard controller then the Maschine controller to lug about.
Plus I have limited space.
I would like an all in one unit with phantom power,audio interface the mashine controller a 4 octave keybord ssd hard drive running the NI software with touch screen.
I would even settle for all the above without the touch screen and ssd drive with just a usb connection to my laptop.
It would make life so much easier.

 

Ok. I am sure you guys heard the phrase what you eat, don't make me sh!t? So if you don't want a new controller, fine. Please keep it moving as you already purchased Maschine and you can buy the current controller in all it's glory or it's little brother. But for us gear slutz that want or need a more robust controller, we are letting NI know that there is a market for one.

 

And what many of the rest of us are saying is we would be more than interested in a new controller with better pads, improved screens, less jumpy knobs, etc. but if NI leaves 100% of Maschine owners with an unfinished product to launch an even more convoluted, incomplete product, they're probably going to lose our business.

Also, if you think the primary function of this forum is for NI employees to read customer feedback, you're out of your damn mind. This is, first and foremost, a platform for NI customers to discuss relevant topics with each other. If you don't like the fact that in an open discussion forum anyone who wants to can enter this thread and talk about why they think a Maschine+Keyboard combination is a stupid idea, then feel free to keep it moving. Dig?

(And I'm not even saying that it is a stupid idea necessarily, although personally I wouldn't buy it. I am saying that this thread benefits from anyone who's so inclined sharing their feelings about what they would like to see from the evolution of the Maschine product line, and implying that anyone who doesn't agree with you and the two other guys who want a keyboard--not exactly a huge market, btw--should get out is totally unreasonable.)

 

Completly agree with everything here. If NI eff this up I think it will be an uproar of some sort. We shall wait and see. Imagine if they do the keyboard thing and it cost $1000 plus. I don't know... Hopefully, we don't have to put them in the same category with Avid with the pricing debacle. If that situation does occur.